Has Jon Jones quite reached his peak yet, or is he still pre-prime?

Shoguns a sloppy striker. He choked Machida out. Try that with Anderson and his aura would end violently.

 

Shogun is still considered one of the better strikers in the division.

Choking Anderson against the cage seems like a fine strategy. But the gif was more to highlight the KD.

 

No, I think his BJJ and boxing will get better. I think even his wrestling could get better. When he gets people down he looks devastating so people fail to recognise that his takedown attempts fail. I think in time he'll get better and picking his TD attempts, when to trip, when to throw etc Very much like GSP who times them very well.

 

yes slightly pre-prime for sure

now wether wipes out on a motor bike ala Frank Mir or whatever then maybe this is his prime, however, i think he still can get better :good

 

He might be prime right now and lose then come back for a second prime. It's only early days for him. Physically insane for a 25 year old. I've noticed his physique is looking bigger now. Crazy that he makes weight

 

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He set up the TD that he got in that round with a clean right hand to Machida's jaw, and he dropped hurt him again with a punch to set up the choke. Machida frustrated him in the first round, but he adjusted. People claim that Jones was "exposed" in the fight, but that's laughable. Machida is a much more experienced and polished striker who'd completely humiliated most of his opponents not named Mauricio "sloppy" Rua standing.

Yeah, Jones might get put to sleep if he gets careless with Anderson, but the same goes for just about every other ****ing fighter in the UFC. I don't see how that's a knock on Jones. Anderson has made plenty of guys lose in ways that we've never seen before or since.

The notion that he'll never be able to handle "elite strikers" is ridiculous. He's already stood toe-to-toe with the best guys at 205.


It's also laughable to claim that he's already peaked. Jones has only been training MMA for about four and a half years. He's only been with a legit camp for three. Before he went to Jackson's, he was getting most of his striking tips from Youtube videos. He's got a lot room for improvement considering his natural aptitude for MMA. I think that we are going to his striking and BJJ skills improve markedly. ****, the guy admittedly doesn't train BJJ that often, yet he's submitted two black belts.

 

Im not one who said He was exposed I was actually very impressed with the way He almost killed him. But I have to be realistic here, His stand up is going to be like the way it is now and not much more improvement. Most is just due to his body type. Hes got long limbs and I just cant see him throwing crisp jabs or 1-2 combos. You'll see some spinning elbows and kicks but I cannot see Jones boxing improved. This is why I think he will be at a disadvantage to Silva IF He decides to stand up with him. Everything He does standing up, Silva does better and Silva is pretty long himself.

 

You missed the big IF I wrote. And Im not too sure if He can keep Anderson down for a prolonged period. I am now convinced that Silva was injured against Chael the first time. He can improve a little but he would never ever come close to Anderson level striking.

 

And Jones isn't?

 

Again. Is this supposed to be some sort of slight against Jones? Who is on Anderson's level in MMA?


BTW was Anderson injured in the first round of his fight against Henderson? If Hendo and Chael can smother him like that, Jones can do much worse. Silva has a problem with wrestlers. That's not to say that Silva doesn't have a very good chance at winning. All that he needs is one opening to end the fight, but Jones is an extremely shitty match up for him. It's why Silva and his team want nothing to do with the fight. To pretend otherwise is silly.

 

this turned into a Anderson/Jones thread now, personally i see Jones demolishing Anderson. I dont see Jones forcing it to the ground and only going when its available. Jones is fast.

 

Jones would beat Anderson easily. If Sonnen can lay on top of Anderson for 6 rounds Jones sure as hell can. But Jones always does damage from every single position on top. Not only has Jones got size on his side but I think his skill set is the exact blue print to give Anderson nightmares.