Has Marquez surpassed Barrera & Morales on the all-time Mexican great list?

Can Barrera and Morales drink their own pee?

 

legend! :rofl

 

Exactly!

And Barrera was the worst offender of those named. Abraham punching Dirrell I regard as accidental or reflex, it happened real quick after the slip (DQ is still okay). Jones-Griffin, that was likely intentional.

But Barrera actually walked over to Marquez, bent down and talked to him (looked that way), before hitting him. That was so blatantly and inexcusably a foul, he can thank Marquez' warrior spirit for getting up, otherwise he would've have been rightfully DQ'ed.

Same thing happened to Marquez in the first Pacquiao fight, where on the third knockdown, he is dangling in the ropes trying to get up and Manny punches him while hanging there. Also a blatant foul. Joe Cortez didn't lose any words over this (no surprise there...)

 

No.

 

This

 

Barrera's wins over Naz and Morales are bigger then any of JMM wins. Same with Morales his win over Barrera and Pac are bigger then any JMM wins aswell. :good

 

But a 140lbs championship would look real good on JMM's resume. (1st, 4x)
(Then the debate can start)

 

Barrera's big wins: Hamed, Morales

Morales's big wins: Pacquiao, Barrera

Marquez's big wins: An old Casamayor? Juan Diaz? Michael Katsidis? An old Barrera? Juarez? Gainer? Peden?


No, Marquez has not done enough to equal Barrera or Morales. This only even becomes a debate if JMM wins a lww title.

 

No, but close

 

Nope, not yet.

 

:rofl

 

for JMM pac 1, and 2 not saying he is above them, but those are two good wins

 

funny thing, to Mexicans, Marquez vs Pacquiao 1 and 2 are much greater than Barrera-Hammed it isnt even fair, trust from i know Mexicans, they will remeber those 2 fights for decades

 

I scored the 1st Pac-JMM fight for Pacquiao, 115-112.

I scored the 2nd Pac-JMM fight a 114-114 draw, so I can't agree there.

Both were great performances by JMM, neither of them were wins in my eyes, and a win (such as Barrera-Hamed or Morales-Pacquiao) takes precedence over any great losing or drawing performance.

 

No.

Morales
Barrera
Marquez

at the moment.