Has Mayweather fought the best Welterweights available?

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  1. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    And did pac fought a prime cotto in a ww limit that isnt catchweight? Funny pac fought cotto who was still not 100 percent thanks to the beating he recieve by the loaded gloves margarito who destroyed cotto chin in the first fight. And the way cotto look vs clottey is the reason pac fought cotto which is the truth. If ppl say floyd didnt fought a prime cotto then pac didnt fight a prime cotto either.

    Pac didnt face a real toughest threat at ww at all. Clottey was clearly being pay of not hit pacquiao. I mean really clottey took risks vs a prime loaded gloves margarito but not against a smaller pacquiao? Some thing stinks.

    And would pac fought a 6'1 paul williams at 147 pounds without catch weights???


    Pac beat an unproven ww bradley in the first fight in case ppl forget. And what was pac last 3 wins? Vs Bradley in the 2nd fight? Vs Rios that was coming off a lost and it was rios first fight at 147 pounds? And who? Chris? Really?? You pac****s have no room to talk about floyd fighters he beat at ww.
     
  2. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Cotto was just 2nd fight of pacquiao at WW. 3rd above 135 and fourth above 130. He's just warming up to these "higher weights" weights and yet he already has guys like cotto snd clottey in his ww resume all the while floyd took long vacations to avoid fighting them wws.
     
  3. SweetScience

    SweetScience Accuracy is the key! Full Member

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    You idiot. Its easier to move up in weight than go down. And there is a reason why Pac fought Cotto on November. They did not want to give Cotto ample time to heal from the cut he suffered against Clottey. And 145? Come on give me a break. To all you re****s saying that 1 lb does not make a difference. Try competing and you will see that even 1 lb is hard to lose when you've drained yourself to death.
     
  4. Code Red

    Code Red Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Right, Floyd retired and ducked Leonard, Duran, Hearns, Benitez, Pryor, and Hagler, when the division was at it's hottest
     
  5. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Another joyboy fanboy that was real butthurt that floyd ducked and dodge real WW challenge when it's waxing hot.

    Ok it's harder to go down that's why floyd needed canelo to go down to 152 when he was even having a hard time making 154. And it's easier to move up just like when marquez was dragged up two divisions grom 135 to 144 only to be cheated off the scales. Also tell that to donaire who moved up and fought a much bigger walters.
     
  6. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Since coming back from "retirement":

    Ortiz (WBC Champion)
    Cotto (154 WBA Champion)
    Back down to 147 against Guerrero (WBC title defense vs interim champion)
    Back up to 154 against Canelo. (Unification bout for WBA/WBC at 152 catchweight)
    Back down to 147 for Maidana (Unification bout for WBA/WBC championships)
    Maidana (Rematch)
    Upcoming - Pacquiao (Unification bout for WBA/WBC/WBO championships)

    Mayweather currently holds 4 of the 8 major titles at 147 and 154 pounds. Beating Pacquiao would give him 5 of 8. (At the age of 38) I'd say his recent record has been very good.



    Yes, this resume I listed absolutely ****s all over Pacquiao's resume. The only person who appears "butthurt" is you, due to the fact you know judgement day is coming May 2nd. You know damn well fighting 60% of his fights at 147 against UNRANKED OPPOSITION did nothing to prepare him for Mayweather. Absolutely nothing.

    Smoke and mirrors. You have a lot of nerve calling anybody a fanboy. You're practically a teenage girl who is in love with the latest pop star with your lack of logic and reason.


    Pacquiao supporters really don't have a leg to stand on.
     
  7. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Those title are shiet worthless if they came from the two most overhyped boxers in broner and berto aka floyd's gatekeepers.
     
  8. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And where did Pacquiao get his title from? :lol:


    Answer: Cotto (Catchweight fight) Honestly, his best win at 147.
    Answer: Brandon Rios for a "vacant" international 147 pound title.
    Answer: Bradley... an unproven 147 pound fighter who only had a belt because of a robbery. The only man he beat (JMM) that was ranked was only ranked for a victory over Pac. Bradley doesn't have a single legitimate win over any other ranked opponent at 147. Marquez is his only win.

    When Pac had a title, who did he defend against?

    Marquez twice. (No wins at 147 pounds at the time of the fights)
    Bradley (Moving up from 140 pounds)
    Mosley (Coming off a loss and draw)
    Clottey (Coming off a loss)
    Algieri (Moved up from 140 pounds)


    You're a joke. A total clown.
     
  9. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You seemed to be taking it personal when guys don't worship floyd as much as you do guys.

    To answer your question, pac's current belt is way from his Cotto fight.

    But belts are shiet worthless nowadays. A fight between pacquiao and marquez has no belt in the line but it is much greater matchup than any other fight with belts. Joyboys must know this already but you guys can only defend those farce ortiz and guerrero fights because of worthless belts coming from overyhped boxers.
     
  10. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes, I take idiocy personally. I can't stand stupidity, so people like you annoy me. It has nothing to do with Mayweather.. I have ZERO PATIENCE for idiots. That would mean people like you.

    When Pac had a title, who did he defend against?

    Marquez. (No wins at 147 pounds at the time of the fight)
    Bradley (Moving up from 140 pounds)
    Mosley (Coming off a loss and draw)
    Clottey (Coming off a loss)
    Algieri (Moved up from 140 pounds)

    Not a single title defense against a 147 pound fighter coming off a win. Not one! I bet you just think that's perfectly fine right? You're a joke dude. :lol:

    And I'm not even claiming Mayweather's 147 pound resume is all that great, but it certainly looks great when you compare it to Pacquiao. :rofl
     
  11. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bradley, Marquez and Clottey are way better opponents than Ortiz, Guerrero and Vacations.
     
  12. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pacquiao doesn't have a single title defense against any 147 pound fighter coming off a win. :lol:

    Bradley has only 1 legitimate win over a ranked opponent at 147. JMM. (Who was only ranked by virtue of KTFO6 over Pac) Facts bother you I can tell. Bradley is an extremely over-rated win at 147.

    Marquez's only wins at 147: Pacquiao and Mike Alvarado. Says something about Pac huh? :lol:

    Clottey: Career gatekeeper. Ortiz and Guerrero accomplished more in a few fights at 147, than Clottey did in his entire career there. :deal



    Go back and pray to your Pacquiao poster. :rofl
     
  13. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd has already spent a whole decade at the weight and his best win is over an old mosley who came off a very long layoff
     
  14. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And SRL doesn't even have 40 wins on his resume. Your point? I'm waiting for your "SRL shouldn't be ranked high because he took vacations" thread.....

    Mayweather taking a vacation doesn't change the fact that his resume at 147 and above absolutely destroys Pacquiao's resume. You keep ducking and dodging.

    Fact: Pacquiao doesn't have a single title defense at 147 against any welterweight coming off a win. Mayweather is the first opponent Pacquiao will be facing to defend his title that is actually coming off a win at 147.
     
  15. pugs

    pugs Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac's win over cotto and bradley alone shiets all over floyd's entire farce of stay at WW.