Has Mayweather mastered the art of "fighting without fighting"?

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  1. 6'4south

    6'4south Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some of you may remember the great Bruce Lee making his statement in Enter the Dragon. His definition of fighting without fighting was basically using your head instead of you physical prowess to defeat an opponent. In Floyd Mayweather's case I'm referring to his inactivity and self preservation. I know a lot of people were up in arms when he suggested his health comes first, but I've always believed it had more to do with saving yourself physically and extending your career. I would love to see Mayweather fight more often, but I understand he's had a long boxing career (amateurs included). I actually believe part of his later success comes from "self preservation". Thoughts
     
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  2. locard

    locard Boxing Addict banned

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    Hard Work.

    Preservation.
     
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  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    He did prolong his career imo by retiring after Hatton. I remember in the 24/7 for that fight he was complaining about his body breaking down. He had hand problems, back, shoulder, and elbow issues as well. I think that was the main reason he left at that time.
     
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  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Floyd would have ducked Bruce


    "fighting without fighting" I think Lee mean't it abit more literally
     
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  5. SugarShane_24

    SugarShane_24 ESB good-looking member Full Member

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    Who knows, maybe doing business at 147 the way he fought at 130 might have taken years off him as well.

    Sure he may stay undefeated, but a younger Cotto, Marg, PW, among others would surely deal some damage.
     
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  6. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    I always thought when he said health comes first he was referring to how he didn't want his health to be put on the line against a cheat
     
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  7. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    I think the layoffs definitely help. He seems to have found a balance between preserving himself in between fights but still staying in good shape.
     
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  8. Keitaro2187

    Keitaro2187 Member Full Member

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    its funny you name cotto cause cotto has gone on record saying mayweather offered him the fight way earlier in there careers he turned it down not mayweather, marg is a cheat.
     
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  9. Boxing Fanatic

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    ever since he came back, hes been fighting once a year and using usada testing. why is he taking such long breaks between fights(waiting a year to fight again) and using a testing agency who is known to have a shady past as with the shitey way they handled the morales and winky tests?
     
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  10. mr. piff

    mr. piff The Ring General Full Member

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    Well, he's mastered the art of hitting and not being hit, so why not.

    He sees the new bar Hopkins has set in the game.
    40 plus years old, still winning championships and fighting at an elite level.

    Shiiiit Floyd's gonna rule this game for a long time.

    Other fighters who are not as polished, been in wars, and ktfo, careers are much much shorter.

    He's not done building on his legacy.


    Deal with it
     
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  11. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    against a possible cheat. That video of FLoyd was clear what he was getting at. But *******s is too stupid to figure it out.
     
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  12. 6'4south

    6'4south Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yea, I think people often forget how much damage occurs in training let alone the fights themselves. In fact I've heard several fighters and athletes in general say they suffer more damage in preparation for a fight, then the actual fight itself.
     
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  13. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You do know that FLoyd have close to 200 amatuer fights right whereas Pac have practially none? So whose body need more of a break, judging by what you just said.

    Floyd stepped in the ring 4 more times than Pac.
     
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  14. canucks9314

    canucks9314 Iron Chinned ATG Warrior Full Member

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    i'd bet floyd has trained/sparred more rounds in his life than pacquiao has so that logic doesn't really work.
     
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  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's what I interpreted it as.
     
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