Has Mayweather successfully waited out Pacquiao's peak, like SRL did with Hagler?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Nov 17, 2011.


  1. horst

    horst Guest

    Well, this is kind of my only point. :good

    Mayweather at 35 will be a lot closer to as good as he ever was than Pacquiao at 35 will be, even though they'll both have seen their peaks pass some time ago.
     
  2. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Mayweather is a disgrace.Just like Leonard did after his initital retirement, the **** thinks he's bigger than boxing and can pick and choose whenever he wishes.
     
  3. SouthpawSlayer

    SouthpawSlayer Im coming for you Full Member

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  4. horst

    horst Guest

    Not that interested in your opinion tbh. Next.
     
  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Several points

    1. Ariza said Pacquaio was the best he'd ever been physically and both he and Roach thought they were going to blow Marquez because they thought he'd improved so much
    2. Mayweather has slowed allot, compare him at 130lbs to today or even in 2006 to today, he's just so much slower. But yes his technical ability should mean he can perform at a decent level when past his physical prime, more so than Pacquaio
    3. Styles make fights, Marquez has a style to neutralise and land on Pacquaio, this is a repeat performance of 2008, so if anything this just indicates that Pacquaio hadn't improved as much as we thought he did in the space of a year, rather than he's suddenly aged
    4. Cotto/Magarito/Hatton/DLH all suite Pacquaio stylistically, he could land first on them and they didn't have a good fast right hand, which is a punch Manny's open to. Clottey and Mosley had better styles to face Pacquaio but Mosley didn't have enough left and Clottey didn't show up to fight, he's a big fight choker
    5. You've never been that confident in the Mayweather fight for Pacman Popkins, hence your repeated comment 'Pacquaio will still be greater than Mayweather if he loses to him'
    6. You can blame Mayweather for the fight being made to date and he's part of the equation, but Arum repeatadly has wanted Pacquaio to fight other fighters instead of Mayweather. Instead of continuing negotiations he signs to fight Clottey, supposedly there were summer '10 negotiations - ok maybe Floyd rejected the terms, we can't be sure exactly went on there, so I won't pretend Floyd was chasing the fight. Pacman's team have said up until recently 'why should we take Floyd's tests, he doesn't make the rules' - well fine but don't pretend they're trying hard to make the fight either. Now the Marquez fight is done and Mayweather has called Pacman out prior to him looking bad against Marquez, Arum instead of welcoming the fight gets angry. Doesn't take Golden Boy/Hayman's calls and says they won't negotiate. And now Arum is dead set on Pacquaio-Marquez 4. But it's still all Mayweathers fault? :lol: Roach wants the fight ofcourse but Pacman just does whatever Arum tells him to do. Remember how Mosley said before Margarito 'the Pacquaio fight in 99% done', why was it 99% done when they were supposedly wanting a Mayweather fight?
     
  6. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    When the rematch took place Pac wasn't seen as being this invincibile warrior, so when he went toe to toe with JMM and got the decision his stock rose even though most people scored it for JMM but by the time the 3rd fight rolled around the HBO agenda machine and the general boxing media driven by his recent wins and their hatred for all things Mayweather had built him up as close to unbeatable a fighter as there has ever been. So when the result of the fight was similar to the others it shocked people out of their delusion.
     
  7. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    Pacquiao fans are getting the excuses in already. Floyd beats Pacquiao at any stage of his career