Has Pac lost his finishing instinct or just slowing down?

Juan and Timmeh were good enough defensively to make emmanuel look sloppy.

People began saying emmanuel can't cut off the ring as early as the Mosley fight. After emmanuel's last two performances I hope pepole begin to listen when it's said that emmanuel can't cut off a ring

 

You can look good if your opponent run to survive.

 

No he's still very close to his prime, just the quality of his opponents and the fact they are close to the top of their game as well is the big difference. If Pacman had beaten the pre 2008 versions of Cotto or Margarito and especially the late 90s early 2000s version of Mosley or Delahoya you can bet his greatness couldn't be questioned. Sure Oscar, Mosley, Cotto, and Marquez are bigger names and leaps and bounds better than Bradley, but they had deteriorated by the time Manny fought them. I think Manny is still very much at the peak of his game.

 

He did show signs against Margarito thet he wasn't going in for the kill when he kept looking at the ref to stop the fight. In the Mosley fight he lacked his nastiness from earlier in his career as well. He never got the chance against JMM. He definetly took his foot of the gas in the mid to early late rounds against Bradley.

I like Pac he's still a top elite fighter, but as with everything in life change is enevitable and his appetite, nastiness and ability to fight as an elite fighter will decrease, it's already started but that's no great surprise to everyone.

 

Juan is a master counter so that's his style but Timmy is a brawler. Lol at Timmy being a defensive master....more like he was running for his life.

 

He is facing fighters running away trying to hear the final bell.
They all getting hit hard first few rounds and get on the bicycle.
He needs to fight FMJ, Khan, CLITCO

 

Did you ever think, for a second, that maybe it has something to do with his opponent's skills or talent? It isn't necessarily JMM's style that gave Pac problems. It's his ability to box like a true elite.

Pac was supposed to and wanted to finish Bradley. He had a lackluster performance against JMM prior and was strongly urged by Roach to KO Bradley in brutal fashion. I see no reason why Pac would take his foot off the pedal. He simply just couldn't KO a guy with good movement + a solid chin.

Threads like these completely undermine Pacquiao's opponent's abilities. Give credit where it's due. If you want to believe Pac has slowed down, fine. But I can easily point out that JMM has also lost a step but was still able to beat Pac according to my scorecard.

 

as early as the Cotto fight actually...Pac looked frustrated as hell when Cotto started backpeddeling.

 

Agreed.

You CAN look good while your opponents run to survive....if you know how to cut off the ring.


Look at some of Chavez' fights...especially the Camacho fight.

 

I didn't say he was a defensive master, you did. I said his defense was good enough to make emmanuel sloppy. Now stfu you're annoying.

Yea, I didn't mention that because people were still giving emmanuel the benefit of the doubt for the Cotto(e) fight. What can you do when someone is backpedaling in survival mode!?

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Julio knows

 

BINGO! :thumbsup

 

he's past it.

he's gonna be 34 end of the year.

most guys who fight his style are usually past it by the time they hit 30.

pac has 60 fights on his belt now.

he's been fighting what 17-18 years?


he's still good but definitely on the downslide.

 

Pac hasn't lost anything. He ran into a young slick Black American fighter with skill. That all! Tim is much harder to hit than a Ghanian, Mexican or an old legend with better than average footwork left for skill.

Get over the fact that Manny can't get off against this guy. That's all it is. Give Bradley credit for making it a more difficult fight for Pac than we're used to seeing. And for once maybe some of you can actually witness the impact of the fundamentals of "the sweet science" and how it let's a good boxer (not even great) be effective....