Has pac surpassed rjj in the ATG list?

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  1. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thoughts?

    I usually see rjj being thrown about in the top 30 or there abouts in most posters lists. You would've been shot down a year ago for bringing this question up, but in light of the events of the past 12 months i dont think its preposterous anymore.
     
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  2. Contendo

    Contendo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Without doubt! :bbb
     
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  3. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac is now among the greatest.
     
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  4. MasterFlo

    MasterFlo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Most likely yes, it depends how much you emphasis you place on sheer skill and H2H though. As much of a machine as Manny is Roy had the most unbeleivable natural skill set. As for resumes obviously Pac is way ahead.
     
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  5. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    pac is a *****, SRL and SRR would destroy him
     
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  6. DaHead242

    DaHead242 Active Member Full Member

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    In terms of resume, yes. in terms of physical ability and skill, no.
     
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  7. VX.Nefarious

    VX.Nefarious Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    true:good,dont forget to thank the juice
     
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  8. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Same opinion here.

    I dont put that musch stock in "h2h", as it's just conjecture prone to bias. Resume's on the other hand are a concrete manifestation of "skill" and greatness.
     
    Carlos Primera, Nov 15, 2009
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  9. JudgeDredd

    JudgeDredd Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sour grapes eh :lol:
     
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  10. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I love RJJ but Pacman has passed him easily !!
     
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  11. konaman

    konaman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I am a big RJJ fan but Pac had passed him before this win.
     
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  12. cris3000

    cris3000 Active Member Full Member

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    Resume? Yes
    Skill and ability? Not a chance
     
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  13. TheGreat

    TheGreat Boxing Junkie banned

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    being MW, SMW, LHW and HW champ has to count for something another thing most forget is that RJJ was oon top of the world for 11 yrs, Pac deserves great credit thouh I just think Roy is alittle ahead right now but he is definetly ahead of PBF.
     
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  14. Carlos Primera

    Carlos Primera Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm not trying to be a smart ass, but this is genuine question. How do you measure "physical ability" and "skill"?
     
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  15. doomeddisciple

    doomeddisciple Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy will likely win his 7th here in a month.
     
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