Has Paquiao's countering "D" gotten that good since Marquez?

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  1. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Styles make fights.

    Marquez (arguably a counter puncher) was the last one to beat Pac. FMJ (a defensive counter puncher) will just have a higher connect percentage and being a defensive "fighter", less active. Or has Pacs defense against countering gotten that good?

    I think its safe to say FMJ is going to take his counter initiative in the fight. So, have we seen enough countering defense from Pac in his last few fights to overcome Floyds countering?:think

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Top Dog

    Top Dog Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eh he didnt actually beat him though:nut Maybe in your mind, but what does that matter
     
  3. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Stylewise, he gave Pac the hardest time.:deal
     
  4. Oscar de la Roa

    Oscar de la Roa I'm THE lightweight champ Full Member

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    Against Marquez, pac showed he could counter, however, he didnt expect that marquez can counter his counters
     
  5. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And thats what Floyd will do.

    Does this become a speedy counterfest?
     
  6. onourway

    onourway Haye KTFO1 Wlad Full Member

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    Marquez won rounds off Pac, because when he countered, he countered with three and four punches and would catch Pac with a couple of them.

    Mayweather won't do this, he's a one punch fighter.

    They're both counter punchers, but Mayweather won't be posing the problem of punches in bunches like Marquez.
     
  7. el mosquito

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    and marquez was an in your face counterpuncher, he would not waste time and cocks back at you once you fire your shots. PBF on the other hand spends a lot of time doing nothing while his opponents fire away. PBF gets a pass mostly because his opponents are usually sloppy punchers and wouldn't land even if mayweather does nothing
     
  8. ecdrm15

    ecdrm15 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good point.
     
  9. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    No, his countering D has not gotten better, his last 3 opponents have had the same style-left hookers. Hatton, Dlh and Cotto are all one armed fighters-JMM could punch with two hands. Floyd is fast, he can punch a bit, and he makes you miss. People mistake Floyd for not throwing punches and not being active with his punches-****en dumb! Floyd has a method to his madness. He doesn't slug until he wears you down, he will stand center ring when you show weakness, and that one punch Floyd throws has precision and power behind it. Floyd throws body shots also. Don't ever try to hide a thread like this from Nal lol... I shatter threads like this when artificial thinking starts to take over lol...
     
  10. Symphenyceo

    Symphenyceo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No,he's just a lot faster than the guys he's been fighting.
     
  11. el mosquito

    el mosquito Boxing Addict banned

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    Nah... PBF would have a harder time dealing with pacquaio's last three opponents than Pacquaio. I'm sure Cotto would have done more damage and landed more on Mayweather than he did on Manny even counting the free punches pacquaio allowed cotto to land. If hatton had taken mayweather to round 10 and landed his punches, imagine what cotto would have done.
     
  12. TKDfighterJoe

    TKDfighterJoe Oneshot Knockout Full Member

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    so if mayweather counters pac punches, then because marquez could counter pacs counters, will mayweather be able to counter pacs counter-counters? Or will pac counter mayweathers counter counter-counters? because counters counter counter-counters, and counter-counters counter counter-counter counters counter counter-counters. Counters counter counter-counters counter counter counter-counter counters counter counter counters counter-counter.

    right?
     
  13. blastmaster122

    blastmaster122 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    my eyes hurt
     
  14. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Myth!!!! You never shattered any thread. Fact : most of your threads are shattered and owned.