Has quitting on the stool become more common or acceptable in recent years?

yes

 

Open scoring is a fine idea on paper but would work the other way around. Any fighter knowing he's ahead on the cards would play it safe from the moment he realizes the win is in his hands. If it's not his decision, then the trainer would suggest and the promoter would force it, because getting the win is unfortunately more important from a business standpoint than giving a good fight. Open scoring seriously fails because of these reasons.

 

Who are you to judge?

 

It's also not just a product of the "internet generation" either. Because the same people who wonder why Ortiz acted the way he did revere fighters like Chico, Gatti, Adamek, and Andrade, just to name a few. At least, I know I do.

People watch sports to see odds overcome, not to see guys say "**** it" in the face of adversity. I really hope that this is a short term trend and not the mark of the new generation.

 

Were you in a similar situation to have the right to judge a badly beaten up, cut, swelling and half-unconscious 22-year-old athlete, and if you were, why do you think you, behind a TV or shitty internet stream, can judge a fighter and label 'brave' or 'quitter'? When did our fans became so utterly disrespectful, forgetting this is just a sport?

 

exactly. someone else said it in another post: think about how norton-holmes, gatti-ward, ward-augustus, fullmer-basillo or turpin-robinson 2 would have turned out if they had the "heart" of these fighters. the fighters would be safer but FAR less revered, their careers would have turned out much differently and in turn, boxing history would have turned out different. Boxing is meant to show everything that a man is made of: unfortunately lately, it turns out there isn't much there.

 

Well... this wins for the stupidest comment of the week.

 

The simple difference for me between these two cases is that while Oscar was never even remotely "in" the Pacquiao fight, Ortiz had already proven that he could drop and hurt Maidana. He was also up on the cards going into the sixth.

We aren't all sadists and bad fans for thinking that he at least had a few good swings left in him, and going off of what had already happened, those swings might have changed the fight in an instant.

 

First of all, Oscar didn't quit, his corner pulled the plug. Technically Ortiz didn't quit either, he shook his head, the ref called for the ringside doctor and the ref stopped the contest on the advice of the doctor, but what if said 'I can't take it anymore'? I don't think anyone of you guys wanted to jump into his shoes and get KTFO, because Ortiz had nothing left even before the knockdown, at the start of the round. This is not the streets where you fight for your life, this is sport, and if you can avoid getting hospitalized to fight another day (especially if you produced a FOTY candidate and came back from a knockdown before getting chopped down), if you decide to call a no mas, that's entirely your right to do, and who the **** is Bobby behind the HD Television to question your call?