Has quitting on the stool become more common or acceptable in recent years?

BTW, you might refer to Cotto-Urkal, in a fight Ulli Wegner threw in the towel in the 11th. The scores did show that Urkal, a fighter with no pop in his hands can't win, but Wegner pulled the plug because of the hometown referee.

 

Boxing itself changed after Nov. 1982 with its pair of thrilling fights that involved "Ray Mancini, Duk Koo Kim, Aaron Pryor & Alexis Arguello." After those two fights certain people wanted to abolish the sport / business of boxing altogether...

Since 1982, the rules have changed and fights get stopped more and more easily based on a wobble or two from a fighter in the ring..... Nowadays, a dude takes a battering in a round, he just heads back to the corner as says: "**** It."
:-patsch:shock:

MR.BILL

 

You happen to see Shane and Oscar reading him the riot act? I don't think they were telling him how proud they were.

Was reading an Arguello interview yesterday, and he called out JCC for how the second DLH fight ended. Now if Arguello thought that was quitting, what would he have said about Ortiz? What about all the people who really DO know boxing in the So Cal area who were questioning Ortiz's dedication?

The kid isn't a victim of an internet warrior smear campaign.

 

A few of us warned the public (and the promoters, damn, they read ESB ) that fighting Maidana was a seriously miscalculated move. But you know, it's the same with Lacy. People bought the next Tyson/next De La Hoya hype like they were buying ***** in Amsterdam, and when the fighter they falsely pictured (as a mixture of De La Hoya's good looking, Diego Corrales' heart, Pacquiao's punching power and Leonard's skills) got beat up, as typical, they found a way to blame the fighter instead of admitting their OWN mistake to jump on the bandwagon like a total fool.

Diego Corrales in an extreme example of a warrior. Leonard is a once in a lifetime talent. Oscar is a rare mixture of good looks, a golden smile and great skills. Pacquiao's power is among the 1%. You cannot expect every HBO-backed fighter to be a virtual super warrior from Fight Night Round 4, but if DLH, Chico, Pac and Sugar are your standards, then it's not hard to jump on a young fighter and call him a quitter.

Judge a fighter based on his performances, and you won't get a reality check as bad as half of ESB got Saturday night. If you do that and watch the sport for sport performances, you feel happy and praise the fighters for giving you a FOTY candidate completely free of charge, a display of power punches and heart to get up from the canvas as Ortiz did in the 1st, and you might note "he could've continued to get KTFO". But you might ask... what's the point? Talking about 'quitting' instead of commenting on a great night of boxing is the sore losers' point of view.

 

This is a really good post. It was an amazing fight and it showed Ortiz is capable of a lot. This was a very tough opponent SO early in his career and though he quit/lost, he showed he's got the goods just a little fresh to put it all together yet. And wow was it ****ing enjoyable to watch

 

You know there were ******s in the ceowd that yelled ''quitter'' when Willard didn't come out for the 4th with Dempsey....

 

mother****er should have maned up. he had plenty of other teeth to lose...:!:

 

Carlsberg,probably the best beer i the world.

Dempsey vs Willard,probably the worst beating in the world.

 

If the fighter is taking too much punishment then you have to stop the fight to protect your fighter.

Mayweather-Gatti
Pacquiao-Delahoya
Lopez-Penalosa

What's the point of continuing to fight when your just gonna recieve more beating from your opponent?

 

I would say yes.

I dont know why exactly but.

 

In general, fans seem to be more accepting of fighters quitting, often on the stool.

Willie Pep caught a lot of flack for quitting in the 4th Sandy Saddler fight. He had a closed eye and injured shoulder. If that were today, well naturally you'd have some people on message boards criticizing, but overall it would be more or less accepted. Jess Willard wouldn't get too much criticism nowadays. He got the living **** beaten out of him.

 

With all the deaths can't blame them. When a fighter is obviously not getting anywhere and is getting completely outclassed he's better off quitting than ending his career because of one fight where he's clearly not going anywhere.

 

fighters do this so they don't die or risk death...it is usually an injury or a beating....only keyboard warriors can't handle it:happy

 

It's acceptable if Lamon Brewster or Samuel Peter do it with no injury forcing them to do so.

It's unacceptable if Vitali Klitschko does because he sustained a torn rotator cuff.