Has RJJ held the most titles at 1 time?

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  1. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He had the Ring belt. You're wrong about that. He never held the Lineal title and the WBO title. RJJ was the ring champion at 175.

    http://www.boxrec.com/media/index.php/The_Ring_Magazine's_Annual_Ratings:_Light_Heavyweight--2000s
     
  2. PolishPummler

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    You can put a big asterisk on those belts he held if you knew the history behind them.
     
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  5. Illmatic

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    WBA, IBF, WBO= DMs belts
     
  6. Fat Tony

    Fat Tony Well-Known Member Full Member

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    WBC = Rocky's belt
     
  7. Darien

    Darien Active Member Full Member

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    Does that mean, going by Superheavyweight's logic that DM indirectly unified all 4 titles?
     
  8. Illmatic

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    all 4 belts were rightfully DMs....
     
  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No, DM never held nor won, the WBC belt. It was Fabrice Tiozzo's and then Jones fought McCallum for the interim belt. Tiozzo moved up to CW so Jones was declared champion.

    The incident where Jones claimed he may move up and Rock won the title is another issue entirely, but DM never held the belt.
     
  10. Illmatic

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    Rock won the title and it was wrongfully taken from him and given to RJJ and almost cost the WBC its entire organization. Rock then lost to DM.
     
  11. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rock lost to DM after it was stripped of him. The belt still isn't rightfully his. The WBC made a mistake, Jones didn't and neither did Rock. Jones said he was going to move up and never did. As far as I know, you are supposed to wait until a boxer ACTUALLY moves up in weight before taking the belt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but there are many cases of a fighter saying he is going to move up, and then changing his mind. You don't just take the belt before he actually does.
     
  12. PolishPummler

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    Like the WBA, IBF, and WBO, the WBC is almost universally criticized in the boxing community for its alleged corruption. Numerous contenders are considered unworthy of their respective rank by boxing critics and magazines. Likewise, many of its champions are not considered to be the world’s best fighters in their particular divisions. Of their current 17 recognized Champions, about eight are considered by most experts to be the theoretical “true champions” of their divisions
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I already know the story. Though I have never saw Jones say he was relinquishing his title, just speculate on moving up, which he didn't.

    So the WBC was stupid....which is what I just said. The belt was not DM's. It was Rocks, and he had it stripped unfairly. But that doesn't place the belts in DM's hands. This happens all the time (unfair stripping) the the corruption.
     
  14. PolishPummler

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    Yes and in that case Jones wasnt the rightfull owner of any of the 4 major belts.

    Never said it was DM's belt.

    Im just here to point out that there is a whole story behind Jones and his multiple belts.

    I wonder why the corrupt WBA or IBF stripped DM for displaying his belt next to the other's while they never did the same to Roy or any other "known" fighter.IMO it all comes down to marketing and WANTING to have the most recognizable name hold your belt.10+ years ago Euro fighters got no love and no recognition.Pre internet and pre broadcasts from European fighters were second class.
     
  15. sues2nd

    sues2nd Fading into Bolivian... Full Member

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    He was missing one major one.