Has the likes of Mundine and Nasser destroyed Boxing in Australia?

indeed, this has been a relatively untainted thread with intelligent discussion. well done Oz.

 

Yep, completely true. :good

 

Time will tell I guess but from early stages he is very very good, have seen him spar his Dad on a couple of occasions and he looks to have the goods, lets wait and see, From what I have seen all he needs is his Dads power and there will be no stopping him, I guess that could be said about a few

 

On Choc I agree with Oz to a certain extent Choc brought a heap of peopl into the game on the back of hate love and Rugby league, however off late those same people have lost interest because of the lack lusture fights that he has taken. unfortunaley he had the Charisma to bring them in Kat Vic and others dont seem to, One thing i have always wondered going back 5-10 years danny Green and Paul Briggs were in my mind pretty equal in terms of skill a fight back then would have been a 50/50, Paul went on to have 2 wars with adamek and a few other notworth fights however never got the imagination of the greater public, Green had Mundine and had 10 times the Publicity and made 10 times the money, If Choc had not come along when he did what would have happened with Pauls and Danny's respective careers

 

IMO Pauls would of been the same but Danny would of never been as well known or as wealthy.

 

Brought a tear to my eye but so dam spot on! even for a ***!

 

Actually it's a good point you raise because as suggested Green and Briggs were of similiar skill coming through the ranks 10-12yrs ago.

I suggest Briggs career wld be the same and Greens on a very similair path to Briggs earning similar money.

 

beaver
Thats what I always thought that as good a fighter as green was without choc he doesn't have any where near the publicity or money he has now, and if paul had been that bit lighter and had jagged onto choc would he be sitting where Green is now

 

We would never have heard of Mundine if not for:

• the fact his father is a well-known and repsected boxer;
• the fact he was a highly paid NRL player who had boosted his profile in the years leading up to his crossover to boxing with various dramas (Solo going AWOL from the Dogs to follow Richens to the UK, Mundine hopping on a plane to bring him back, the Barry Ward racism incident, Mundine's own disappearing act before returning and announcing his switch to boxing, his constant claims of never being selected because of his race, etc.);
• the fact he had money behind him from investors and his NRL days to put into promoting himself;
• the fact he created bad blood between himself and one of Australia's best known fighters and trainers in Jeff Fenech, thereby creating a rivalry between himself and any of Fenech's fighters that was sure to receive publicity.

Anyone who believes Mundine had some sort of philanthropical interest in reviving boxing because it was a dead sport in Australia, or thinks he was truly taking a risk switching from NRL to boxing by walking out on a $600k per season contract need only look at the fact that his PPV contract was all negotiated and agreed to before he walked away from St George. Nasser did his research, spoke to the right people, sussed out the divisions and chose the weakest and least populated one at the time for Mundine to fight in.

Mundine walked away from $600k per season in the NRL to make more money in boxing. If he had failed in boxing, he would have been back at St George on the same money he was on before he left.

 

IBM
I agree with pretty much everything you have said just out of intertest where do you think Danny would have been without choc, dont get me wrong I think choc would have been a lot worse off without Danny

 

Reading it again I probably agree with everything you said, dont think any of those facts were ever in dispute

 

IMO no.because when Mundine crossed over he made his name by disrespecting our best fighter ever Fenech saying he only ever beat Thai cab drivers and generally the feud with Fenech got the public in.if Paul had been trained by Fenech and been a bit lighter then yes.

 

stiffler
True mate I forgot that it all started with fenech Danny was just in the right camp at the right weight at the right time, they were funny times wityh Mc Cleod and fenech busting in to a fox sports do at darling harbour, i think at one stage jeff even mentioned comming back, I guess Paul by himself wouldn;t have ignited the war of words.

 

Good summary.

He's always thought he was bigger than the team or the game, and that's a major part of what's lead to his notoriety.

 

one more point...

*mundines pre NRL match outbursts culminating in him saying st george were the 'real' grand final winners (2000?) leading up to their re-match in (2001?) the following year......2 days after he said it, the storm demolished st george 70-zip. st george then put a pulicity gag on mundine, which of course, gave him more publicity............

snubbed by NRL rep selectors (probably because he was such a drama queen) mundine then decided that to get the attention he craved, he would begin a boxing career.

yall know the rest...