Has the Super Six lost it's integrity already?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 46and0, Oct 17, 2009.


  1. alfonso

    alfonso Active Member Full Member

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    did dirrell say he was robbed like paulie did???
     
  2. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    Yes, it got off to a very bad start. first the ref for Taylor/Abraham was very poor and very biased. He didn't seem to mind AA throwing elbows and rabbit punching, but he took a point from JT for a clearly accidental low blow. Next, you have the Germans trying to act like AA's win was HUGE. JT lost 3 of his previous 4, and got KOed twice. It was clear that the old JT no longer exists by round 3, but the Germans will over sell the win, and real boxing fans will call that bull****.

    Froch/Dirrell looked like something from a tough man contest. Froch, or Crotch as Tarver called him, should have been disqualifed multiple times, and yet Dirrell is the won who lost a point. The ref was clearly either incompetant, or on Team Froch's pay roll. In addition, the score cards were a bit dodgey.

    Very bad start.
     
  3. Hexus

    Hexus WBA = Why Box Anyways Full Member

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    That Croch comment by Tarver had me laughing out loud, my wife even looked at me and said, "Did he just call him Crotch?"

    I hope Taylor is alright from the Concussion they said he had, hate to see that happen to any boxer but it's a risk taken when you step into the ring, hopefully he makes enough money from this tournament that he can retire comfortably, because it appears his career is over.

    I still look forward to the rest of the fights.

    -Hexus-
     
  4. Ilesey

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  5. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    First of all, it is a roped in square...thats boxing, not running...there is no where to run. You may dislike his style, but thats just your opinion. Boxing isnt about who can stand there and get hit more. Its to hit and get hit the least. As far as falling over himself...he slipped on the canvas once, fell over Froch once off balance..didnt happen the entire fight. Nonetheless, a fight is not scored by who runs the least, who doesnt slip, fall whatever... Andre clearly outlanded Froch is damn near every round and had him hurt twice. Froch barely landed at all and never had Andre hurt. Froch lost the fight. He's gonna get destroyed by Kessler anyway, if Kessler beats Ward.
     
  6. JasonChaos27

    JasonChaos27 Active Member Full Member

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    Agreed, completely. That decision was a ****ing joke. I really dont understand why they didnt have the fights held in neutral countries.
     
  7. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    The reason for this is because they would not get enough people to attend the fights to make any money.

    It's fine to have home fights. It's not fine to have corrupt or incompetent referees and judges.
     
  8. Archevol

    Archevol New Member Full Member

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    ... I guess that you're from the US then? lol!

    And the middleweight division is REALLY full of interesting boxers right now? Bottom line is that European boxers have been dominant in the decision for some time now. Is that what's coloured your comment? Simply because it's in the big, scary 'overseas'?

    Only US boxer worth his international salt right now is the one I can't stand - although I can't disrespect his boxing skills: Mayweather Jr... Although there are some good prospects.

    Simple fact is that D hit more often, but DIDN'T want to fight MORE often. I got the distinct impression at times that he feared his opponent. He certainly didn't show what he could really do until later in the fight. If you were an independent ref, you'd be looking at the whole package, not just the number of punches landed - amateur scoring.

    The fact of the matter is Froch's opponent didn't put a decision to rest. D needed more than just fighting clever, he needed to fight brave. I'm afraid this matchup probably came a few fights too early for him.

    Doesn't taint him, IMO; just a great opportunity to learn - and potentially rise to become something really special.

    Shame is, although Froch's clearly got a huge fighting heart - and that's what won the fight for him - APPETITE for the fight - his skills need to be seriously polished. Frankly, a change of trainer might be in order, too, because something's amiss.
     
  9. tomhighway

    tomhighway Member Full Member

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    No for me. I don't agree with last night's decision but it's early days yet.

    Great idea for a tournament that has generated some much-needed interest in the sport again.
     
  10. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    WHY???? It just started on the right foot.... Whoever expected different results could definitely use a revision in his boxing knowledge... LOL at everybody who said Taylor was gonna win this one... how would anybody even give this guy a chance against AA?? This guy's a monster!! Say whatever u want to say but Taylor is just not in these guys' class!
     
  11. threethirteen

    threethirteen Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Boo - shut up. Taylor was losing fair and square and his transgressions were clear for the ref to see. AA's werent and it was the sort of stuff Hopkins does so well (bringing the elbow round with the hook). Taylor went SERIOUSLY low twice. That's all there is too it. He'd been told to keep his punches up and he didn't. The ref was fine.

    Dirrell-Froch was a dreadful, dreadful fight. A guy who couldn't fight against a guy who won't fight. Dirrell could have won clearly if he'd used his speed to land 1-2s every time he stepped round Froch, but he didn't - he just legged it and it made him look like Froch was pressuring him into backing off.

    The point deduction was entirely fair, irrespective if it wasn't applied to Froch as well, but Froch's rabbit-punching was mostly in response to Dirrell's illegal use of holding to stop Froch's offence.

    The fact is - Dirrell had a chance to shine and he wanted to nick a decision rather than really take the decision. That cost him - all the judges could see was his negativity and that Froch appeared to be causing it.

    Still, dreadful fight - I'd have given both fighters a loss if I could have.
     
  12. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nope...just a controversial win by Froch.
     
  13. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    THX, could'nt have said it better ... agree on everything except the last statement... I think Froch won a close, maybe a bit of a lackluster kind-of-fight!!
     
  14. EL CABALLO

    EL CABALLO Boxing Addict Full Member

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    LOTS of sore losers on these board, ain't it??:verysad
     
  15. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Yeah, hating corruption makes people sore losers.

    :patsch

    What we actually got is a lot of ******s. Go look in the mirror to see what I mean.

    Anyone who excuses this kind of **** should be shot.