Has there ever been anyone on Calzaghe's level exhibiting as bad punching technique?

For someone whose punching looks as atrocius as Calzaghe's quite often does, the man has achieved quite a lot. Do you know any other comparable cases?

 

Possibly Greb ...

 

Maxie Rosenbloom and Tiger Flowers were often noted for "cuffing" their opponents with open gloves.

 

Errr Calzaghe punched that way by choice.

 

That was why I choose the wording "exhibited". I haven't followed Calzaghe closely, but I could not imagine that he can't punch cleaner than he often does. I ****ing can, so it would be bizarre if he couldn't (don't think I would get to do much punching at all against for example Hopkins and Jones, though:smoke).

 

Effective beats whatever you consider good technique any day of the week. He is laughing all the way to the Hall of Fame. And he beat plenty of pugs who demonstrated "great technique" and beat them handily. When will you spectators realize there is no "book" on boxing technique. In the end, there are only results.

 

How about Limon or Foreman?

 

That's editorializing and not an answer to the question in the thread, really.

 

Calzaghe's hands are gone so his power declined ,but he had a habit of not turning his wrists over when he connected anyway.
From what Iv'e read Rosenbloom and Flowers would be the standouts.

 

Foreman actually had better technique then given credit for, he knew how to put his body weight behind his shots

 

Calzaghe's damaged hands turned him into a slapper. His once fearsome southpaw left became no more than a flick.

Calzaghe had 22 fights before he fought Eubank for a version of the 'Supermiddleweight' title, Calzaghe stopped 21 of those 22 opponents inside the distance, he even knocked down granite chinned Eubank when he won the title, Calzaghe then stopped his next 2 opponents, both title defences, giving him a record of 25 fights, 25 wins, 23 wins inside the distance.
Calzaghe then damaged/broke his hand/hands in the Robin Reid fight that went the distance, Calzaghe's next 2 fights also went the distance.
Calzaghe ended his career with 32 KO's in 46 fights, just under a very respectable 70% KO ratio.

Calzaghe was a good amateur boxer, he even stopped Chris Byrd, Olympic Medalist who went on to win a 'Heavyweight' World title, Byrd even holds a win over Holyfield, yet Calzaghe stopped him, Joe was stylish and slick in his early pro days, he was never a one punch merchant but a good combination puncher, most people that had only seen Calzaghe at the end of his career would find that hard to believe.

The thread starter, says in a later post, that he has not followed Calzaghe closely, that much is obvious to people that have followed Calzaghe's career closely, as a younger pre hand injured Joe Calzaghe had a good technique.

 

One boxer that did have a 'bad' punching technique was Chris Eubank, Eubank would literally fall over if he threw a big punch that did not land, infact I am sure he has fallen over onto the canvas by throwing a punch that missed, his actual punching itself may have been OK, thrown from the shoulder, weight of the punch moving forward, but his legs were not splayed, so he was not anchored to the floor, his legs were together,he would end up falling over if he missed, to me this is bad technique, body position has got to be part of having a good punching technique.

 

Always interesting with the information, but really not what the thread is about. And once again, I wrote "exhibited" instead of "had" just because I reckonned there were some underlying reason.

But this thread is not about Clazaghe nut-hugging, that can be done in General, it's about how unique Calzaghe was or wasn't in reaching the level he did with that kind of at least seemingly sloppy punching.

 

I always felt there was a method to the madness -- in many of his fights, it seems about a quarter to a third of the punches he throws are loaded and more 'proper', they sound harder, more solid.

I think it's a form of metagaming -- where he gets into a guessing game while boxing his opponents, all the while racking up points.

 

With respect its a poorly worded question and a poor example given.

You have choosen a boxer as an example that did not have 'bad technique', until after he suffered injuries.

I always attempt to keep my posts free of nuthugging and free of biasness, because you have picked on a boxer that did not have a bad punching technique before injury, it looks like you are a 'hater', what saves the day in that respect is you go onto to say you have not followed Calzaghe's career closely.