Has this ever happened before?

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  1. papadoc28

    papadoc28 Boxing Addict banned

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    If the Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight were to ever happen, it's all but guaranteed that Pacquiao will be seen as the underdog and Floyd will be the betting favorite.

    Considering that Pac owns the title of being the absolute top fighter in the sport right now as the P4P#1, isn't it unheard of for a boxer to own that title and not be seen as the clear favorite to win his fights. I've never seen it happen before by my memory.

    Anyone else? Thoughts?
     
  2. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    styles make fights, Mayweather's style and record means he'll be favored over anyone today, plus Mayweather is the bigger man physically, probably outweigh Pac by a good 10-12 lbs in the ring
     
  3. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Basically, Pacquaio is a thief and has the P4P #1 title despite not being a favorite against a guy in the same weight class as him.
     
  4. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    Bollocks. Both fighters tend to weigh around 148-152 in the ring on fight night.
     
  5. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    the highest Pac has weighed was 149 i believe for the Clottey fight after he weighed-in his heaviest which he said hindered his speed and movement. He weighed-in lighter for his last bouts and was 148 against Margo in the ring. Mayweather hasn't weighed in for last couple bouts since he came back, so we don't know what he'll weigh on fight night. All I can go is he looked bigger than Mosley who weighed 156, and Marquez said it felt like Mayweather weighed 10-15lbs more than him. He likely weighs in the high 150s now, that's my guess.
     
  6. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    what a dumb thing to say. how did he steal it? he earned it. If mayweather wants it he needs to step up and take it, that simple.
    With that said yes duran was p4p #1 in the 1980 and a betting underdog in the rematch with leonard, not sure about it though.
     
  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Pac has it because the guy before him retired and is inactive.
     
  8. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    The betting public doesn't give a **** about Ring Magazine's p4p ratings. I don't care how good of a journalist you are, when you're doing rankings, it's subjective and there is bias involved. When you'e betting big money, you can't afford to be biased.
     
  9. PugilisticPower

    PugilisticPower The Blonde Batman Full Member

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    That's why betting should always be the indicator. The P4P ranking is about Who the best fighter on the planet is, pound for pound.

    There is no one between 140 and 154 that Floyd would be a betting underdog with. Potentially even up to 160.
     
  10. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both weigh about the same. Mayweather weighed in under 150 on the count down weigh in for Ortiz. He CLEARLY was not as big as Mosley either. I would have Pac as the favourite as if he hurts Mayweather the way Mosley did he could finish + he would sustain that danger for 12 + Pacquiao's a south paw and can be a pressure fighter 2 things which can trouble Mayweather a little.

    Don't ask me why though but I just have a feeling a Mayweather SD is on the cards. I think a close one may likely go to him. The whole scenario feels what I imagine the SRL-Hagler one was like.
     
  11. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't agree with betting odds a lot really. Let's face it, Pacquiao has been putting better performances in than Mayweather recently.
     
  12. 1_man_army

    1_man_army The Knockout King Full Member

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    Betting isn't a great indicator either, especially in big fights where casual fans tend to throw money on who they want to win or the better known guy.

    This reminds me, was Tyson the betting favourite against Holyfield (either fight) or against Lewis? I remember reading he was the betting favourite in 1 of the 3. Should stand to reason why bettiing isn't necessarily a great indicator.