Has time been unkind to Smokin' Joe?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by PhillyPhan69, Apr 11, 2008.


  1. Sonny's jab

    Sonny's jab Guest

    In my recently unveiled heavyweight list of all fighters from Dempsey's time onwards, I rate JOE FRAZIER #5
     
  2. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    How many people would put good post if the disagreed? :patsch
     
  3. yancey

    yancey Active Member Full Member

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    Chill, McFey.

    :yikes
     
  4. mcvey

    mcvey VIP Member Full Member

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    Why don't you put a decent post up instead of fringe feeding like some pugilistic Remora fish? If you dont like my posts fine ,rebut them with argument ,these silly little snipes are juvenile. Best Ring Announcers? That will get them racing for the keys!
     
  5. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    Oh, maybe i am mistaken. I just remember that after Frazier busted up Quarry, the announcer talked about a potential unification bout with Ellis... and Ellis coming into the ring to taunt Frazier. Not a good idea, although he boxed the first two rounds beautifully.
     
  6. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    These are the HW:s I have ahead of Frazier:

    Ali and Louis: Needs no explanation does it?

    Holmes: Also have names missing from his record, but he dominated the division for a longer period and have more wins against ranked contenders in my estimate (haven't counted, though). It also helps that he wasn't outclassed by any opponent while still near his prime and that he had a quite impressive comeback, which Joe hadn't.

    Johnson and Marciano: Both dominated their own eras utterly which Joe didn't. It's far from unlikely that they wouldn't have dominated Frazier's era, but that's still just speculation.

    Lewis: He beat just everyone there was to beat (except for Bowe, who ducked him) for a 10+ years period. He did suffer two bad losses, but avenged them emphatically. Was never dominated by anyone.

    Foreman: I'm not completely sure he should be ahead of Frazier on my list, but for the moment he is. Frazier had a better record against ranked contenders, but Foreman's impressive comeback and the fact that he dominated Frazier head to head gives him a slight edge IMO.