Has Usyk already surpassed Loma?

maybe.

 

Lomo has the Salido thang, but did jump 3 divisions and I believe still surpasses Usyk stacking up their 5+ best wins against each other.

 

Completely different......

You can't compare two fighters of such different sizes.


Just be grateful you're alive at a time you've got novice pro's like Loma/Usyk, and even Joshua/Spence, that are willing to take on the best fighters they can in 20 fights and less.

 

hard to judge really, Usyk has won the Ali trophy, beating two of the top 3, is undisputed champion, along with The Ring & Lineal. Whereas Loma has gone through 3 divisions, and recently beat a "p4p" talent in Linares at a division he is small in. On balance, i think i'd lean usyk

 

Not a fair comparison, since Loma fights in a better quality division than Usyk. Although Loma lost to Salido, who was old, at least Salido was proven against the best of the best while none of Usyk's competition has measured up just yet. Linares is the grand scheme of things isn't all that great, but he's much better than the stiff and unskilled Gassiev or overrated Briedis.

Gassiev's only claim to fame was knocking down an old Lebdev and barely escaping with a split decision. Beating Dorticos, who couldn't put a dent in light heavyweight washout Edison Miranda says everything that needs to be said about how overrated Dorticos was. Briedis looked very mediocre against Mike Perez, who was a heavyweight washout. Huck was old and shot and Hunter was an inactive novice.

 

hence the "" next to p4p talent, i think he's top 25 maybe, but that doesn't constitute p4p talent for me, but most consider him to be

 

First of all, undefeated doesn't mean ****. Level of opposition is the key. Wlad fought back to back undefeated guys who were bums. Majority of his best wins were against guys with losses.

And how is Usyk supposed to move 2 weight classes up? There is only 1 weight class left.
And his jump from CW to HW alone is massive.

And lets look at the Inactivity stats:
Usyk vs Opponent:
9 months - Glowacki 5
3 months - Mchunu 4
4 months - Hunter 11
5 months - Huck 5
4 months - Briedis 4
6 months - Gassiev 5

A few could be rounded up or down a months if you start counting the days but it canges very little.
The only one with any real inactivity was Hunter.

 

Well Berchelt chose Vargas over Loma. He was the mandatory but the purse bids were not ordered. So Berchelt chose the guaranteed title shot.

 

His idol is Loma! One of anyway, in boxing terms! I know they are great friends too. You can see he studies & imitates Loma not the other way round. Loma is God!