Has Ward the courage to go fight Froch in England?

Of course he has the courage (again I must repeat I'm not big fan) clearly the only way you can get your point across is by expressing your disapproval of Ward and his tatics/career by revealing your frustrations (idiots, morons....) grow up. You should know the old US saying "if you can't take the heat get out the kitchen)

The point here is it really dosent matter where Ward fights Froch, Kessler, AA....they all lost because they where inferior, ineffective and generally perplexed when challenged with Wards grind it out style. Accept this as constructive criticisim....you don't have absorb what I'm telling you but I implore you...open your mind, get out of your comfort zone and utilize an alternative prespective...

 

What's that you say? I was just re-watching the replay of Bute getting his ass handed to him by a guy Ward took apart...

 

Ok so the true test of courage is not entering the ring with another professional fighter who intends to inflict damage on you....no, no the true test is getting over the fear of flying. I get it know...close thread.

 

bottom line is this thread is quite a simple one.

The answer is an emphatic NO..

He never would have travelled, wouldn't when he wasn't a champ and certainly isn't going to do it now he is one.

Get over it and stop trying to support that it was ok before the S6 and is ok now.

 

Not sure I get your point here, but it seems like you beleive his skills would somehow dramatically depreciate once he steps abroad. The only way I can support your logic here is if his fights where razor thin, problem here is he cleary beat these fighters and it wouldnt have mattered if the judges where from Japan, Urkraine and England and they where fighting in Aussie land.

 

Ahh yes, your crystal ball is telling you what Ward won't do. Nice! Say, can you tell me what tonight's lottery numbers are?

The point of this thread is for some butt hurt Froch fans to feel a little bit better because of the thrashing Ward put on him. I didn't see any would Froch come to Flint, Michigan to re match Dirrell threads. However if any of those exist, I won't hesitate to call those clowns butt hurt morons as well.

 

I completely disagree. Traveling across seas to fight does not define courage, I'd agree with those that find fighting abroad to be impressive but it does not equate to courage. Unfortunately for us courage is an ambiguous term and can be defined in many different ways.

 

Your right, I've seen Bute in a hostile environment, hold on my favorite part is on, boom right hand, Bute's head flies back and another quick left as he sags semi conscious on the ropes. LOL, maybe you are onto something about a hostile environment because Bute failed MISERABLY!!!!!

 

Ward should have been made to travel like all the other fighters in the S6, yes. IIRC he was supposed to fight Taylor in his hometown, but Taylor dropped out. Aside from that, I guess a case can still be made that he should have been forced to fight a European on his home turf, but with the exception of Kessler in the opening round, it may not have been realistic. Ward was the higher seed. And I don't know if that entered into the decision, but who knows.
Either way, any fighter would rather have their fights at home I'm sure. US fighters just have the good fortune of hailing from the biggest boxing market.
There's no doubt the gap is narrowing and boxing is becoming more global, but its still the case that more often than not the biggest fights involving Americans will be in the US. (except at HW of course, where the Klitschko's rule, and even they have chosen to come to the US to fight)

 

Your right I don't know how he would react....nor do you for that matter. One thing we both know (as well as the rest of the world that watches boxing) is that those men lost, plain and simple. Lets go with the facts and leave fantasy alone. We all have our theories but in this particular instance we have the history to back it up and history tells us your wrong and I'm right pertaining to the subject of Wards ability to perform under these hell on earth scenerios that will surely come to fruition once he steps foot on forgien soil. Oh and you are correct Ward is not PBF he's a super middle weight that has defeated a quarter of the biggest names in his division while in their prime. Wait a minute does this make me a dick rider...damn, damn, damnit

 

There you go, you can sleep easy now **** face!!!!

 

Ha! Lets reverse that theory quantify the level of pressure given to a fighter doing battle on his home turf....he has to perform well or he will dissapoint his fans! thus causing him to fight outside the game plan, making childish mistakes and unsual costly decesions.

Let me stop there I don't want to patronize you, two of us showing bull headed stubborness will get us nowhere...wouldnt you agree. Lets get back to your utter disgust with reality, the reality of Ward beating foriegn fighters on his so called "home turf"

Your resentment knows no bounds.....I fear even if an American fighter was to travel and defeat one of your hometown heros you will find a way to dig up an excuse for the loss. Froch can talk all the **** he wants (personally I love the guy) but the fact remains he lost and I very much doubt he needs you or any other nationalist to support him and become his 24/7 personal apologists.

 

Courage can be defined in many different ways for sure and in this case for whatever the reason team Ward never was and never will travel so don't be surprised that folk decide that he hasn't the courage to do so. There are reasons for everything just like there is a reason to stay at home.

 

That's an outrageous statement to say the least....Ward is what's wrong with boxing today! :huh

You mean the blatant munipulation of fighters contracts, lack of proper health assessments, increase in PED's and HGH usage etc, etc takes a back seat to the swindling ways of the sub-human Andre Ward. Your freaking amazing (delusional) but damn right amazing.

Right, so now your Canadian/Romainian....or is anything that's not American ok in your book.

 

Well hey, you're convinced their these world beaters right so what does it matter? Their style is so much more entertaining as you guys like to say right? So what is to fear other than getting your ass kicked and getting outclassed by a smarter, slicker, better conditioned, better trained, higher class, American fighter? God I bet it makes your anti-American blood boil doesn't it, just to think of how your boys come over here and get that ass whooped consistently. The thing is we don't just **** people over here for being from a different place and our track record supports that, sorry. We're not nationalists, we don't blindly favor a fighter because he's from America, we judge fights based on who fights the best and wins the rounds most convincingly. I'm sorry you people are so narrow minded, short sighted, and stupid that you can't see past the colors of your flag or someone else for that matter.

Excuses excuses. Ya know what, if he was getting butted so much why didn't he do something to avoid it, or say something to the ref, or why didn't the ref do something about it, or why didn't his corner say or do something about it? You do know that when heads clash it hurts the other guy too don't you? You act like Ward was wearing a ****ing football helmet and just kept bludgeoning Kessler over the head with it. Get ****ing Real. It's boxing idiot and people heads clash in the action, it just happens. Quit trying to use it as as excuse to make up some ******ed ****ing conspiracy theory.

Hey I liked Lennox Lewis a lot, but it wouldn't be the first time a bad decision happened. I doubt the decision went the way it did because the judges just wanted soooo badly to screw the Brit. That's a figment of your imagination, and BTW, it was a draw *****! It's not like Holyfield got a split decision, and Lewis went on to win the rematch anyways, you're grasping at straws to make a hair-brained argument that no one is buying. Shut The **** Up.

By my logic I don't blame him if that's how he felt, especially considering other situations where guys from other countries got robbed over there. It's not nearly the concern over here that it is over there and I already dropped a brick on your face explaining how and why that is.

See, even your little bitchmade response here sums it all up. You just can't stand to see an American come over there and out-box and out-smart your native fighters. You say he ran, cried, and behaved like a little boy when dude CLEARLY got robbed. And look, I wouldn't say "Dude got robbed" if the case were any different, I don't have an agenda or anything to gain from it, but it is what it is and over there they sure as **** don't give people a fair shake and are far more interested in giving their fighters the decision rather than calling a fair fight and the record shows it. Hell, you show it. You simply don't like Dirrell's style and refuse to admit he beat someone you clearly like better. Your bias is disgusting, your attitude is disgusting, your delusion is disgusting, and your comfort with condoning people getting screwed over there is disgusting. Come back and have a big boy conversation when you aren't busy hating people and validating shady judging out of blatant and ignorant personal bias, okay fruit loop?