Has Wilder backed down from 50-50?

How much more money has the regular title brought the WBA? Anyone? Everyone knows how much more AJ makes than his biggest rival but no one knows how much is made by adding a belt? How much would justify the existence of the WBA regular titles?

If all it takes for the best to not have to fight the best is some coin then why do people cry about regular titles? Seems like a successful business venture for the WBA to me. Some chump gets a title for a while until they force a uni on the real champion. Plenty of money for everyone.

Nah, people just use business as an excuse to hold onto their stances. It's well time to make that fight and business doesn't matter to fans. If it did their asses would hype letter belts not trash them. They only ever use business as a shield for fighters.

 

40% is fair. If it takes 45% then AJ should do it, but would likely insist on more favorable conditions for ref, judges, and location in that case.

 

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This. Even before the Ortiz fight Wilder was still the longest active reigning titleholder with 35+ wins with almost all coming by knockout. Wilder-Joshua would easily do More PPV's than GGG-Canelo and pack any venue in the U.S. or the U.K.

Wilder would need to be completely desperate to take less than 50%.

Also, just for the record Parker got played by Hearn. Parker accepted less than 35% because Hearn guaranteed him a 55% split in the rematch should he upset Joshua. However, knowing Hearn I highly doubt he would honor that agreement.

 

This one is a more glamorous fight (therefore, more marketable to the UK casual audience) than the Box Office smash that was Joshua-Klitschko. And that has a lot to do with Wilder. Brit golden boy vs. brash product of urban America is a winning formula period, and that's before you factor in that the outspoken American is an unpredictable KO artist and the fight is happening in the HW division.

Huge fight, the biggest there is for AJ outside of Fury. Wilder is worth 40%, for sure.

 

I don’t dispute he’s made 8 figures in those fights but he’s had lower purses than $15M. I didn’t think he started making 8 figures until after Wald but see he’s been well paid for some time. However, his lowest purse is not $15M.

 

Yes. Could have used his 11th, 12th, 13th or 14th fight as an example that he’s had purses under $15M but was just making a point that AJ’s lowest purse was not $15M

 

Wilder's biggest purse is 2million where they had to give tickets away for free a week before the fight because it had only filled 9k of a 19k arena

Joshua makes 20million now vs whoever and fills 90k stadiums without effort


If Wilder gets anything more than 30% in this negotiation then he is being grossly overpaid. This is all about that belt for AJ, it's nothing about the fighter because A. Wilder is garbage and B. Wilder has absolutely no fanbase and isn't a draw.

This is business and Wilder needs to know his place as the B side.

 

Not really.

(Assuming Joshua beats Parker) Even accepting 35% he would be making a lot more than he has ever made before. He would be making a lot more than he could make in any other fight and he would have the chance to win the WBA, IBF and WBO titles. Plus there would/could probably be a rematch clause where he could get 50%.

That's not desperation, that's ambition and good business sense.

 

It’s not that simple though is it, Wilder has 40 wins against highly questionable to downright comical opposition.

As for sell out crowds in the US, well only if it’s a small venue or if 35,000 British fans travel to the US but why should they?

Wilder doesn’t need to be desperate to accept 50/50 what if he got 35% but that meant earning $15Million (10X his previous biggest purse) would that mean he’d sold himself cheaply?

Same explanation for why Parker hasn’t been played by Hearn, he’s being paid his biggest ever payday multiple times over, how is that being played.

Joshua is the cash generator in this without him Wilder or Parker are earning $1Million per fight if they’re lucky, with him it’s $10Million

I’ll ask the question I’ve posed regularly.
Why don’t Wilders team sort the venue, sort the US TV PPV deal, underright the fighters purses and training costs put the financial guarantees in place and put an offer on the table?

 

Well I read this today

"The bottom line is if someone wants a fight, it gets made," Finkel said, adding that their side has never asked for any particular purse split for the bout and that they are aware they would get less than 50 percent of the money. "We have not begun negotiations with him. We are fine to fight in the U.K. We are fine to fight in Vegas. Here you have [Wilder], one of the two best [heavyweights] in the world ready to fight. The dollars will get made if Joshua wants it. I know that no matter what is said he doesn't want the fight now. It's got nothing to do with cowardice. It's got nothing to do with anyone else. Deontay, he knows, is the only one who can beat him. He'll fight when he's ready. Right now he's dodging us."

 

No, Wilder started to find his timing and Ortiz slowed after the first knockdown. Wilder probably would have put those rounds in the bank.

 

It`s Wilders way out of a fight with Joshua.

 

Yeah but Wilder is a bigger draw than Parker at this point. If Parker's got 33% You could make an argument of 40% to Wider.