Has Wlad done enough to establish lineage?

Unless he loses along the way. Dont be surprised if we see Haye comeback in the picture and they end up fighting next year at this time.

 

Vitali is considering either Arreola or Haye next. Vitali will knock either one.

 

Tough question with vitali in the mix

I say this, they are the linage champions, an sure that is how they want it

one more to go,,,VALUVE, i sure it will be a done deal by the end of next year

 

Valouev has to fight Ruiz, afterall, Ruiz is owned 100% by Don King, Valoeuv 50%. Sad...........

 

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when did he even get started. i hope your not putting your hopes in this guy. I think we're looking at Wlad-Ray Austin II

 

Haye can't lose a fight if he does not fight.

 

Well then Who beat Marciano when no one was looking !
YDF !!

 

Who else do I have? The Heavyweight division is a complete wasteland. Haye is a talented fighter with alot to offer, he just needs to work on his leaky defense and he should be fine. I like the guys personality as well, he could really bring some much needed excitement to the division, based on what he does in the ring and what he says outside of it.

 

true :yep

yeah but I really don't think he has much of a chance at all. The guy just doesnt have the chin and style to upset Wlad. he's a natural counter-puncher not an effective aggressor at all. So how the hell is he gonna have any success against Wlad who controls distance so well?!?

People have been touting Dimitrenko lately but I've been looking at him recently and i just don't see it. He's big and athletic with pretty good speed and combos but not heavy handed and has gaping holes in his defense. Doesn't look like he takes the best punch either. He hasn't learned how to use his length and size very well. I get the feeling one big right hand by wlad puts him out. I'm gonna pick chambers on pts if he comes in around 215.

I think Povetkin has the best chance. He has a solid base, high workrate, skilled inside, pretty durable, aggressive, outstanding stamina. But he does not have heavy hands and has major defensive liablities and isnt quick-footed. Even then, I think Wlad would have to have an off night for him to pull an upset. Povetkin hasn't done himself any favors by being inactive and avoiding punchers.

 

You certainly did your homework, and are really turning into one hell of a poster.

I will be honest, from what I seen of Povetkin I give him very little chance of beating Wlad. I pointed out to a poster awhile back, have you ever took a glance at Povetkin's resume and the top guys he faced had little to no power? Larry "Legend in his own mind" Donald, Chris Bryd, and Eiddie Chambers who gave him fits early on and was beating him to the punch early on, ended up faded in the second half of the fight. I just think Povetkin has a glass chin, could be wrong, but my money is on he's just good at hiding it for now until he finally fights Wlad and the truth will be known.

Laugh if you want, but I still give Valuev (aside from Vitali)the best chance of beating Wlad. Valuev will probably go all 12 rounds if I had to guess, so that means Wlad's stamina could be at risk. As well as fact that Wlad will be fighting someone nearly 6 inches taller than him, which could pose a threat to Wlad and make him even more timid than he already is. I give Valuev a solid 30% chance of beating Wlad, which is higher than give most.

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Yes, I think he has.

 

Valouev has a rock solid chin. He can provide a very difficult fight for Vlad, and difficult for Vitali. He is underrated. Valouev has lots of stamina, can go 12 rounds, has great jab, still think Vitali or Vlad would win, but again, could be difficult.

 

Valuev is as slow as a snail. You saw how Chagaev was able to land that left hand at will. Wlad is faster with far more power and will land the jab and power right hand at will. Valuev has never been in there with a legit power puncher yet had been buckled bu guys like Ruiz. Wlad's power and speed will shock him like it did to Chagaev and he will fall to the earth making a sound that nobody will soon forget...

 

Wlad needs to become undisputed, simple as that. As of now, Vitali has too strong a claim anyway.

Only one way to do it I'm afraid.

 

Its not a tough question at all you dumb****, its merely a fact that he is not linear.

You are saying that they are BOTH linear champions? atschatschatsch Oh brilliant, more pearls of wisdpm and insight from ESB's resident Klitschko lunatic.

2 linear champs? Jesus Christ. Whatever will you spanners come up with next...:--(