Has Wladimir fought someone of the speed of haye before?

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  1. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    as does fighting ruiz,harrison,valuev and barrett makes haye look like linford..double standard my man..thing is peter is better than all of hayes heavyweight opponents so far
     
  2. Hellion

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    Ok fine. But Haye is fast because he looked so against...well...Valuev? Or perhaps John Ruiz who was so past it it looked as though he was moving through treacle.
    Here's Ruiz against Valuev in their second match. Even there he's moving slowly and that was a good while before he went in against Haye.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_RtQGHPEWM[/ame]
     
  3. Threetime no1

    Threetime no1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Personally i don't see it going past halfway, and obviously either man has the power to end it.
    Wlad while he is limited in what he does, he does it very well, and poses Haye numerous problems. Obvoiusly the jab and straight right hand, are his biggest weapons, so if Haye is circling to his left he faces getting caught with the right. Another danger is Wlads counter left hook, so Haye has problems circling right too. But Haye does stay outside range well and closes the gap quickly, which needs to do here and early.
    If he has Wlad reeling he can't get too close and smother his own work like he normally does because Wlad is the ultimate grabber, and these moments could cost Haye dearly if he does indeed hurt Wlad, obviously giving the Ukrainian any oppurtunity to grab is gonna cost him and tire him out.
    I expect Wlad to fight as normal (why wouldn't he), but Haye's strategy has to be to hit Wlad hard and as quickly as possible to rock his confidence and take him out of his comfort zone. He definitely cannot let Wlad establish his range with the jab or the fight could be as good as done.
    Like i say i don't see it going past 6 and i think Wlad will end it with the right hand. But i am not totally discounting Haye because the guy is a born winner and has that mentality, he is also a gifted fighter who will be a danger as long as it lasts.
     
  4. Hellion

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    I almost totally agree with this. I don't utterly discount Haye at all. The only disagreement I have is (and it's minor) that it could be a left from Wlad that begins the end for Haye.
     
  5. Boxfan1

    Boxfan1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad is going to catch Haye lunging forward with a short right hook in round one. Just wait. This may well be the shortest fight ever for Wlad.
     
  6. Noneshallpass75

    Noneshallpass75 Active Member Full Member

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    The weight advantage if haye allows it will be telling, in clinches etc wlad will press down on haye and try and tire him out your right, it was evident in many of wlads fights.
    The thing that makes this fight a lottery is the chins they both possess either could go with a hard shot
     
  7. tosun66

    tosun66 New Member Full Member

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    Has Wladimir fought someone of the speed of haye before?

    Who has Haye fought someone anywhere near Wlad's skill, power and experience????????
    That is the question you have to ask yourself.

    Wlad by TKO somewhere between rounds 8-11.
     
  8. BoxingDomain

    BoxingDomain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    True.
     
  9. Noneshallpass75

    Noneshallpass75 Active Member Full Member

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    Haye looked fast at cruiser before he stepped up and he maintains that speed at HW
    His style is based around fast movement and angles
    No matter who he faces
    Wlad bases his style on a good defence, jab and big right hand
     
  10. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Has this already been asked before?
     
  11. Noneshallpass75

    Noneshallpass75 Active Member Full Member

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    I asked the question because I think speed is key in this fight, its true Wladimir is more experienced at HW and is a technically fine boxer
    But I see him having a lot of trouble with hayes movement, thats not to say he loses the fight
    Look at history with the likes of Tyson and the way he could use good head movement good footwork to beat the bigger men some with far more experience than himself, and more recently Pac and the way he makes his speed tell peppering his opponent with shots from all angles then moving out of range.
    Im sure wlads people will make sure that the ring is as small as it can be on saturday
     
  12. tosun66

    tosun66 New Member Full Member

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    Couldn't have said any better...

    Between the rounds Austin's trainer was trying to convince him that, Wlad was slow and one minute later Austin couldn't see what struck him: lightning.
     
  13. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eddie Chambers has very fast hands
     
  14. DanishFightfan

    DanishFightfan Boxing Junkie banned

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    Jones was also alot heavier than what he was used to( obviously), Ruiz was old and his reflexes probably declined him against Haye..
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    The thread doesn't ask about speed + power; it asks about speed.

    Byrd was faster than Haye, if less powerful.