Hasan N'Dam and Amnat Ruenroeng in Rio qualifier

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  1. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course pros are now eligible to compete in the Olympics. But with the decision only recently made and the existing pro powers rallying against it, there aren't many pros willing to commit to going for Olympic glory. Are you aware of any pros planning to compete in the qualifiers in Venezuela? There's only one that I'm aware of: Hassan N'dam. He'll actually be boxing in the 81 kg/178 lb light heavyweight division! Lomachenko mentioned that a big challenge for pros would be having to be on weight throughout the tournament. So pros would be fighting at their 'ring weight' rather than their 'dehydration weight', which we regard as the guy's weight. N'dam obviously isn't consistently even within the 165 lb aiba middleweight limit, so he'll be boxing against bigger guys. Can't see him doing too well against De la Cruz.

    http://espndeportes.espn.go.com/box...mer-ex-campeon-mundial-en-apunt****-para-jjoo

    Canada is the only country that insists they want to get as many pros as they can in the Olympics. Yeah Tony Luis bringing us the gold!
     
  2. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Beterbiev had plans to do so, but he changed his mind as it would interfere with his pro career.
     
  3. bcr

    bcr Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Not many fighters are going to qualify from that event, also they are many guys of the wsb going for that places.
    I heard that Canada was thinking about sending many pros this year.
     
  4. qwertyblahblah

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    http://www.scmp.com/sport/boxing/ar...-boxers-hassan-ndam-and-amnat-ruenroeng-enter

    Hasan N'Dam and Amnat Ruenroeng are confirmed for the ABP/WSB/pro qualifying event that starts tomorrow. N'Dam in the 81 kg/179 lb light heavyweight division, and crazily Ruenroeng in the 60 kg/132 lb lightweight division. N'Dam not being able to stay at 165 throughout and having to compete at light heavy is reasonable, and he wouldn't be too outsized as his natural weight is probably over 170, and other light heavies would be under 179, unlike the pros who are only on weight for the second they're on the scale. But you'd think Ruenroeng as a flyweight could at least make 123 lbs bantam, rather than having to compete at lightweight. He was a light flyweight at the 2008 Olympics, so is naturally a small guy.

    Here's the tournament site and bout sheets for both divisions:
    http://www.aiba.org/apbwsb-olympic-qualification-event/

    81 kg:
    http://d152tffy3gbaeg.cloudfront.net/2016/06/C75-C75W81.pdf

    60 kg:
    http://d152tffy3gbaeg.cloudfront.net/2016/06/C75-C75W60.pdf

    Does anyone know much about N'Dam and Ruenroeng's potential opponents? N'Dam's likely first fight is Jonathan Esquivel, from the States. I think N'Dam's footspeed, range, and combos could really do him well in 3 rounders. Ruenroeng's first opponent is German Artur Bril, who has a lot of WSB experience and fought APB last year, but wasn't elite in either competition. I hope N'Dam qualifies but don't see him beating la Cruz or Ward, I doubt Ruenroeng qualifies.

    By the way, I am completely in favour of pros competing in the Olympics. It is stupid and ignorant to insist that top amateurs can't compete with pros, and it will be compelling to see how well-known pros do in the 3 round tournament format. Considering the WBC and IBF will now not rank N'Dam and Ruenroeng they only deserve props for fighting for personal and national pride rather than money. My only qualm is that the qualification process doesn't allow it to be a true best on best like every other sport. Only 3 of 28 spots in a division can be earned through the ABP/WSB/pro qualification tournament, and APB and WSB boxers have additional spots that non-AIBA pros don't. I guess AIBA's happy with that, and is using the Olympics as a carrot to dangle pros towards APB in the future.
     
  5. qwertyblahblah

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    N'Dam will likely have to beat Denys Solonenko to qualify. Just caught up on a bit of video of him. Built like a tank, pressure fighter, knows how to close the distance. Him and N'Dam would be pretty wild.
     
  6. gmurphy

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    The reason ndam isn't boxing at the middleweight limit of 165 is because he cant , France and camaroom already have someone qualified in them weights so he has to got to 81kg for camaroon because France have someone wualifed at 81kg
     
  7. gmurphy

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    Genov would be heavy fsvorite to beat the american, i think ndam should beat genov
     
  8. gmurphy

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    Ndamn should beat solonenko too , solonenko is about the 3rd string Ukrainian light heavy.i think bril wins too
     
  9. qwertyblahblah

    qwertyblahblah Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Thanks, and I see that now. Maybe he could fight at 165, but I am probably right that he'll be more comfortable at light heavy even if he's giving up a bit of weight. Against Genov at least he'd be undersized for sure, as Genov apparently fought a few pro fights at cruiser.
     
  10. qwertyblahblah

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    There's a Thai at bantam, so that's probably also why Ruenroeng's competing at lightweight.
     
  11. gmurphy

    gmurphy Land of the corrupt, home of the robbery! banned Full Member

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    Ya maybe, i cant see him beating the likes of ward and de la Cruz , he could best the rest though

    Genov is big but not great, ward schooled him on he's home turf

    Amnat doesn't have a hope IMO, 135 is about 20 pounds above he's usual weight id be surprised if he qualified

    Also why is the Korean light fly shin there? He has no APB fights, no wsb fights and no pro fights

    Moylette got a tough draw that Armenian is good, but moyleyte will be more fired up than ever
     
  12. gmurphy

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    More than likely id say but he is giving up serious weight
     
  13. qwertyblahblah

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    Shin was slated to fight in APB but dropped out, I guess that's good enough. This tournament is bizarre, basically s****heaps from WSB and APB. The amateur qualifiers were higher quality. Esquivel failed at the amateur Americas qualifiers then gets a second crack because he has some WSB experience. N'dam better get through these guys.
     
  14. lepinthehood

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    Will be funny to see Ndamn yoyo of the ground in the amatuers aswell.
     
  15. Fury should have qualified for England :yep