Hasim Rahman On Fighting Rocky Marciano ......

Then Bernard Hopkins is your man:

“Sugar Ray Robinson at 147 pounds was close to perfect,” Hopkins posits. “But at middleweight, he was beatable. I would have fought Ray Robinson in close and not given him room to do his thing. He’d make me pay a physical price. But at middleweight, I think I’d wear him down and win. Me and Marvin Hagler would have been a war. We’d both be in the hospital afterward with straws in our mouth. We’d destroy each other. I wouldn’t run from Marvin. My game-plan would be, rough him up, box, rough him up, box. You wouldn’t use judges for that fight. You’d go by the doctors’ reports. Whichever one of us is damaged less gets the win. Carlos Monzon? I could lose that fight. Monzon was tall, rangy, did everything right. I see myself losing that fight more than winning it. I ain’t saying I’m number one, but I’m one of the best middleweights of all time. My legacy is what it is. If you want to be great, then beat Bernard Hopkins.”

 

yeah, yeah... i don't see hopkins winning with Ray

 

I do, and a few others too. :hi:

 

I said what I would rather hear, and I haven't read the entire interview the quote was taken from. There is no source mentioned.

I had several conversations with Carmen Basilio. Basilio loved to tell me how he would fight anyone that I asked him about, it didn't matter what era they were from.

 

DAMN you talked with Basilio. That's cool man. Yeah Basilio is a pretty honest and classy guy himself. I'm sure he would be open. He actually thinks Marciano would clobber a lot of these recent Heavyweights.

 

Basilio is great. I haven't talked to him in quite some time. I recall his thinking that a current(at that time) George Foreman would have beaten Lewis the night he faced Bruno.

 

I have seen other modern fighters comment on Marciano. Wlad commented on Marcino, and said he was a good street fighter type.

Joe Mesi said Marciano might be too small to be heavyweight today, but he would be the cruiser weight champion.

 

5"9 fat and old James Toney was about to KO him in his last fight and 5"10 David Tua Flattened him. He is right about being in a different era. Rahman was a muscle bound fighter with not much skill. He would not make it in the 50's...he would have to stick to body building. He would not make it past Charles or Walcott or Satterfield

 

That is a remark fighters in Marciano's day said before they got into the ring against him and as far as Mesi, remember cruiserweight Jirov ended his career (what would Marciano have done to him) and I dont think Vlad said that in bad way, it has been the streetfighter type that has given him trouble in the past (Brewster) and Marciano hit harder than Brewster

Walcott,Moore and many other had remarks to say BEFORE a Marciano fight but were different in their verbiage afterwoods.....I think that says more

 

True but fighters like Ramhan rarely get to the top without a winning mentality.

If a fighter dosn't have a winning mentality you just know that he is not going to get verry far.

 

That sounds like a pretty balanced analysis to me. Nice read.

 

What your forgetting is those 5'10 fighters were around 240lbs, and both got outboxed for the majority of 4 fights and the 1 ko loss came after the bell, which possibly should have been a DQ. Thats 60lbs on Marciano anyway and despite Toney being fat hes still stronger and more solid than Rocky and Toney wasnt close to nearly ko'ing him did you even see that fight? Rahman is shot now but beat Toney first time, who in turn is as skillfull as Walcott. As for getting Ko'd by Satterfield, thats a joke, everyone beat Satterfield pretty much bar the odd upset

Now as Rahman pointed out its not really fair comparing modern and old time fighters because old timers are much smaller and weaker due to nutrition/strength training/steroids/supplements.

 

I did not forget there weight, in fact Toney could have lost 30-40 lbs for that fight and Tua was overweight and slow. Holyfield handled Rahman pretty easy. In regard to Toney NO, I would not match him in skill with Walcott and did not have nearly the power. James had experience but lets face it he was a fat, short old guy and Rahaman was ready to go.

The added fat in Toneys case was a detriment not a bonus

 

I don't know about that.

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I think the best case for Rocky against Rahman is Holyfield-Rahman. Rahman is strong but an old Holyfield seemed to get the better of him in what was essentially a brawl.

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Would not put much stock in what a fighter would do to this or that fight.

Take Holyfiled vs Lewis I.

Before the fight, Holyfiled said he was going to knock Lewis out in 3 rounds. Now I thought Holyfiled would win"At the time", but even I would be crazy to said Holyfiled would pull it off with a 3 round ko.

I though Holyfiled would stop Lewis in the 8th or 9th round, ALAL the way he dispatch Tyson or Moore. Of couse Lewis outbox Holyfiled and was robbed with that draw. But did any one relly belive in the 3 round ko??