Hassan N'Dam vs Jonathan Esquivel 2016 Olympic Qualifier (video)

East Side Boxing will have you believe the amateurs are more important and telling than the pros. They will have you believe that amateur records carry over to the pros.

 

Stupid people will have you believing that N=1 makes a case for something.

 

Stop crying about it. If Esquivell was actually that good, he would have beaten N'Jkam. Don't most Olympic Sports have pros in them? The cry babies might as well complain that Rigondeaux, Lomachenko, and Savon won more than one gold medal, instead of turning pro. Get out of here with that sh!t. Let Pros go after their gold medal if they want to. I wouldn't have picked any pro boxer of the time to beat Rigondeaux or Lomachenko at their respective weight classes, in either Olympic Games that they won gold.

 

Apparently Eseuivel was given the third, but I thought N'Dam boxed him silly from the first to last minute. He looked really good. The jab was effective, he was using lateral movement to keep from being touched and landed right hands out of it, showed nice speed. He didn't look undersized at the weight either. Joe Ward is a big boy, but still N'Dam I think acquits himself well against both him and la Cruz.

The gloves are a noticeable difference from the pros. They're 2 oz bigger, and look like they can't really be closed in a full fist, which surely dampens power. And they just look different, if anyone knows is the padding distributed differently or something?

 

Just watched it and it was a poor quality fight, both guys looked trash and would be no chance for a medal. I've heard talk that US amateurs have improved, that guy certainly gave no indication of it.

 

It was N'dam's first fight in the format in years, and he came out with the win. He's going to qualify, and we'll see how much more comfortable he gets in the Olympics. Besides Ward, la Cruz, and the Kazakh guy, who would N'Dam have no chance against? I just checked out a couple minutes of the Italian who won WSB, and he's not that great.

 

But he's an Olympic schooled fighter.. pros and ams are different in that almost all the ams succeed in the pros (the true world #1s anyway).. but not all pros would succeed in the ams..


Some gold medallists weren't really #1.. the "200lbs Olympic Champion" wasn't really a heavyweight champion.. and some world #1s under performed in the Olympics.. but beat the Olympic champions before the Olympics..

 

And the Olympic Champion of 140lbs doesn't really mean much.. unless you are the best welterweight like SRL.. of the lower weights.. plus also the Olympic Games wasn't really world in the Ali days.. sure if you were exceptional like Ali you could enter.. but it didn't really become the world games until later.. so Olympic Champion in 1900 or something doesn't really mean much..

 

Not until we had the World Championships did the Olympic Games had no boundaries in the 70s or something..

And heavyweights are known to fluke Gold in all boxing due to their size from time to time.. that's why we had Joe Frazier..


Evander Holyfield the slugger almost won gold.. but never beat the Cuban.. due to Boycotts in a few Olympics..

 

Olympic Champion in the lower weights doesn't mean much unless the 2 best little guys fight in the same division.. and Val Barker is awarded.. not earned.. they gave Jirov boxer of the games.. when Antonio Tarver was the best in the weight.. and Wlad the better countryman.. well born the same anyway.. Val Barker is given.. Gold is earned..

 

Mind you many times the best U.S. boxer may not get there period due to shady scoring and politics.

 

please tell me that is a reference to induction proof! I want to believe there are intelligent people on this board:happy

 

Funny to think that Equivels' dream was "stolen" in the final round of qualifying...surely if he was that good he would have already qualified...

 

People need to stop thinking pros are going to win the Olympics. N'Dam made it to the quarter finals of the Olympics before. Of course he's going to beat a no namer like Esquivel! N'Dam was a good amateur to begin with and his style is more suited to it.