I been following Lamon since 2000, the man has been in some wars. I do agree, Brewsters heart in his prime was out of this world. Just like he said after fighting Wlad thew first time "The man would of had to kill me to beat me, he didn't, and I won". Brewster was a inspiration to me that night, and April 7 2004 will be a day I never forget. I'm going to be honest, if Wlad ca keep him at bay with the jab and dont panic, he would knock Frazier out. Though if Frazier gets on the inside, Wlad becomes fragile and weak, because he has no weapons on the inside. Frazier would drop him with the first decent shot he lands, and as we all know, once Wlad is hurt, he's as good as dead.
No comparison resume wise, thats for sure. When your best wins are over Chris "Feather fisted" Bryd and a just turned 25 yearold free swinging Sam Peter, you got problems.
You should just shut up because you are one ****ING IDIOT. We are CERTAINLY talking about the combination of athleticism, talent, and TOUGHNESS. And YES MORON, the NFL is exactly where the great large athletes who would be competing as HEAVYWEIGHTS are today. The AVERAGE of the 1,696 NFL players is approximately 6'4" 250 lbs. There are an abundance (ABUNDANCE) of athletes between 6'5" and 6'8" that are stronger, quicker, faster, and more athletic than both rather average Klitschkos. That doesn't suggest that every football player would be heavyweight champ and beat their asses. But only a MORON doesn't recognize what most US sport fans can easily see. There are many hundreds of exceptional huge athletes over here. Don't bring me your dip**** argument about the hand to eye coordination of a bunch of soccer players. Soccer players don't use their hands in any meaningful way and don't make the kind of physical contact reflected in every play in the NFL. The average height of a soccer player isn't even 6'0". Get the **** out of here with your bull**** dude. Clown.
I cannot beleive that you are actually comparing Wlad to one of the greatest heavyweights who ever lived! A man that would fight anyone and was not afraid to trade shots with huge punchers (Lyle, Foreman, Frazier).
i dont give a **** about how football players use their hands. They certainly dont close them and hit each other with them. Plus, they play in ****ing pads dude. And a fight isnt a 10 second play. You gotta fight for 12 3 minute rounds. A HUGE DISADVANTAGE for football players. Soccer players on the other hand, would have a huge advantage in the stamina department. They are also just as fast as many football players. And soccer is a game which requires MUCH MORE QUICK THINKING. You dont have a coach calling every play. The ball comes to you, and you gotta think fast and put the ball in play. And that kind of physcial contact dosent men **** in boxing man. A tackle and a hit in the face are NOTHING alike. so your arugment DIES RIGHT THEIR. Using your logic, 154-175 would be dominated all by soccer players. And 180 + by football players. Too bad they are all too ****ing ***** to box. so we will never know. You see the problem is, I kno alot about football and soccer. I watch both and am qualified to make a comparison because i enjoy both sports. However, you only watch football and know JACK **** about soccer. So your opinion dosent ****ing matter ******* :rofl
It's like people think Ali is the be all end all, like there can never be another HWT superior to him. WHich is nonsense. Why is 1971 the end of the evolution of HWT champions? It's not. Holmes very well may have been technically superior than ALi, I mean better. Lewis IMO most certainly was, especially because he was so much bigger and stronger. Wladimir beats Ali too. If Jones and Cooper rop him, Klitschko puts him to sleep. But the evolution will continue. In 10-20 years maybe 5, there will be a new great HWT with an innovative and dominant style which will supercede Wladimir Klitschko. Klitschko fans can accept this. Why can't Ali fans accept that, though Ali was once the greatest, he has been surpassed?
Right we get it. Babality is a *** and he wears diapers. You gonna show us your ass getting reamed next? idiot
Ali was a showman and for me, one of the best fighter of all time. When people think about Ali, they think about boxing. When people think about Wlad, they think about sleepin.
And I could just as easily say, just because Sanders, Purrity, and Brewster knocked Wlad out, Ali could do the same. Wlad lost 2 journeymen and a guy that has almost as wins as he does losses for christ sake. Wlad's chin is the weakest the division has seen for a reconginzed champ, since Floyd Patterson in the late 50's, early 60's. And he was around 185 pounds, and what, 6 inches shorter than Klitschko. For Wlad's size, the man cant take a punch for the life of him. Brewster made his legs collapse from under him from just a jab, and you dont think Ali's jab cant do the same? Wlad had loads of trouble beating Peter, who was 6'0 and a half, and Brewster is the same. Both men dont have half the talent Ali had, yet they were able to get to Wlad's glass chin. Ali would outbox Wlad, then make him have a panic attack mid way through the fight. Ali has 10 times the chin and mental toughness Wlad only dreams of having.
Listen dildo you need to give it a rest. You clearly DON'T know **** about any sport and are apparently a first class pansy. SOCCER!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! There isn't a thing wrong with being a soccer player or enjoying the sport. There is a lot wrong with using that as a comparable argument against the NFL/NBA for great LARGE athletes. You are a ****ing IDIOT. GTF outta here with that BS. Football and basketball and major league baseball receive the best athletes, and in particular, due to the effective subsidization provided by the college/university system (which also promises an education). They have the best recruiting scouts, they take all the athletes from high school, and you merely have to ask yourself what young kid would rather be a boxer that nobody knows instead of a superstar who is on top of the world? Even guys like Mayweather and Pacquiao are just whispers in the friggin' wind in the sports world compared to athletes Kobe Bryant, Tom Brady, Lebron James, etc. No one is addressing ****ing soccer in Europe as having an impact upon US heavyweights. If you want to compare your 6'0" and under European or World soccer players against the Klitschkos do so. No one gives a **** about that kind of idiocy.
see you really DONT KNOW **** ABOUT SOCCER *******. If you did, you would know that their are plenty of soccer player 6 foot and up. If soccer is so pansy and easy, then why does the whole world play it. IS the whole world pansy? How about this one, the only reason paqiouo dominatted the lower weights is becasue all the best mexican ahtletes are playing soccer :rofl the fact is your whole argument is based on an IF factor. That means ****ing nothing. So you basically suck. The reason why lebron,kobe dont fight isnt because of money. its because they ARE NOT FIGHTERS. They dont have it in them to fight. If they were fights, and liked ot fight, they would become fighters. Makes sense dosent it. I love how you also said that I dont know **** about any sport, When i clearly know more about sports then you do. Oh yea, and sports dosent just mean whats on tv in america atsch why do you think NO ONE but america likes football? america is the toughest in the world? lol. yea ok you clearly know ****ing nothing about soccer if you most of the players are under 6 foot.
goalies in soccer are almost always like 6 or higher. Do you even know what a guard is? Plus soccer has SO MANY ****ING PLAYERS compared to football.
Doofus, the AVERAGE (do you understand AVERAGE?) height and weight is 6'4" 250 lbs in the NFL. You want to post soccer team rosters and compare heights and weights against the NFL & NBA? ****ing goalies!!! LMAO. Fine, you doubt there are real talented LARGE athletes out of the 1,696 in the NFL but you think some European football goalie could be kicking some Klitschko ass - well, all the more power to him (to the imaginary "him" .. because you are ****ing stupid). I think it is gonna take someone with some height and some weight in their back pocket rather than some ****ing goalie. Pick a team and go to war ... you'll do fine in a long distance race .. unfortunately the issue at hand is where are the great LARGE athletes in the US for HEAVYWEIGHT boxing .. not a discussion in which World soccer/football players really need to be addressed as relevant. Manchester United Active Roster Ben Amos G 6-0 154 Luis Anderson M 5-9 152 Dimitar Berbatov F 6-2 169 Febian Brandy F 5-6 150 Wes Brown D 6-1 172 Fraizer Campbell F 5-8 181 Michael Carrick M 6-1 165 Craig Cathcart D 6-2 161 James Chester D 5-10 154 Tom Cleverley M 5-8 147 Ritchie De Laet D 6-1 169 Daniel Drinkwater M 5-8 163 Richard Eckersley D 5-9 165 Jonny Evans D 6-2 170 Patrice Evra D 5-8 168 Fabio Fabio D 5-10 163 Rio Ferdinand D 6-2 169 Darren Fletcher M 6-0 183 Ben Foster G 6-2 174 Darron Gibson M 6-0 198 Ryan Giggs M 5-10 150 David Gray D 5-10 154 Owen Hargreaves M 5-11 163 Sam Hewson M 5-8 165 Matthew James M 6-0 167 Tomasz Kuszczak G 6-3 185 Federico Macheda F 6-0 169 Alberto Manucho F 6-2 183 Lee Martin M 5-11 176 Luis Nani M 5-9 146 Gary Neville D 5-10 176 John O'Shea D 6-3 165 Ji-Sung Park M 5-8 154 Rodrigo Possebon M 6-0 172 Michael Rafael D 5-7 178 Cristiano Ronaldo M 6-0 165 Wayne Rooney F 5-10 172 Paul Scholes M 5-7 163 Daniel Peter Simpson D 5-8 165 Carlos Tevez F 5-6 148 Zoran Tosic M 5-7 152 Edwin Van der Sar G 6-6 187 Nemanja Vidic D 6-0 183 Danny Welbeck F 6-1 161 Ron-Robert Zieler G 6-0 156