Hatton, accomplished a lot, impressed nobody

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by heidegger, Dec 6, 2007.


  1. Executioner

    Executioner Boxing Addict Full Member

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    agreed
     
  2. Tencount85

    Tencount85 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    One thing is for certain, those belts Floyd has will make great beer pads for Ricky if he pulls it out.
     
  3. planetzion

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    so if you a floyd fan which appears that you are ...arent you being a little soft on you guy for taking such an easy option then??

    see perosnally ..if floyds beats Hatton then I believe he deserves a lot of credit ...hatton is very very dangerous fighter period and only an idiot (sorry man dont mean to be rude) would say otherwise....
     
  4. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    agreed as well....
     
  5. heidegger

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    Yeah I think youre a bit too intelligent and eloquent for me. I might just duck out now. Thanks for comprehending my post and making astute, relevant observations.
     
  6. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    all the clever sentence construction in the world wont change the fact you just got owned :hi:
     
  7. See Me Flow

    See Me Flow The Pharaoh of Boxing Full Member

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    2 days left until this nonsense is settled!

    PBF 12 UD.
     
  8. heidegger

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    Oh delusional as well as semi-literate. Quite the package.:roll:
     
  9. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    doesn't matter what we think about hatton it is obvious he is a legend in britain. having won three british fighter of the year awards floyd defeating him will be huge for his resume. I hate hatton's hold and hit style and hope floyd can send him back bloddy to manchester.
     
  10. JAM Killer

    JAM Killer Coming Through. Full Member

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    wrong
     
  11. Words

    Words Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I accept this challenge.

    There is an element of truth in this. He did fight a lot of bums, but hell the guy was promoted by Frank Warren, what do you expect? Are you aware of the cautious way in which Frank Warren has matched his prospects over the years? I suggest you check out a fighter called Enzo Maccarinelli and ask Darnell Wilson to tell you about how it feels to be on the recieving end of Warren's politics.

    But the wins against Vince Philips, Ben Tackie and Ray Oliveira are impressive. It was not so much the fact he won, but the manner in which he won. Lets take Vince Philips. An aging, battle-hardened vetern who was at the time, despite being a world champion in his prime, just a top level journeyman, like say Emmanuel Augustus or Mickey Ward. The job of a journeyman/gatekeeper is to expose overhyped young prospects. Hatton absolutely annhilated Philips and Oliveira, gave them the worst beatings of their career. If he'd have won narrowly on points, big deal, but he smashed them up. Anyone who knows boxing knows that Philips, back in the day, would hang with anyone from 135-147lbs. If your calling these men "bums" then you are a ****ing idiot, because these are proud men with pedigree and class, and they deserve way more respect than that.

    Firstly, Eamonn Magee was a very good fighter. The fact that Hatton beat him is impressive. He has an iron chin, fast hands, power and an excellent counter-punching technique that put him firmly top 10 in the division. He knocked Hatton down, something that no-one else has managed to do. Had he not been stabbed shortly after the fight he'd have gone on to do very well. He's ten times the fighter than Junior Witter will ever be.

    Anyone who thinks Hatton is one-dimensional should watch this fight. He came out in the first two rounds like a madman, pressure, and the cagey counter-puncher managed to time some awesome counters and really hurt Ricky. But Ricky adapted, changed his gameplan mid-fight, and started boxing from range, using excellent footwork to keep out of the way of counter's and using handspeed to get in and out without being tagged. For those who think he cant box, this fight is proof that he can, because he ********* a top 10 hard-as-nails contender when he was just 24 years old.

    As for Ben Tackie, all you can really say by comparing the two fights between Tackie and Hatton/Tszyu is that Tszyu is a harder hitter and better finisher than Hatton. I am a big Hatton fan, but in the history of the 140lbs division no-one had a more deadly right hand than Tszyu. Other than that, it was a dominating performance by Hatton and you are wrong to take credit away from Ricky just because he doesn't hit as hard as Tszyu. No-one hit as hard as Tszyu at the weight.

    Lets look at the excuses you've just set out here.

    - Kostya was shot (wrong, Kostya had just come off his most brutal win since Judah and was a young 35.)
    - Kostya was ring rusty (wrong, a serious veteran like Tsyzu does not need to fight 6 times a year. Its called experience)
    - Hatton cheated (wrong, Hatton is rough and he likes infighting, but he's not a cheater. If you think he is you dont know boxing. You can fight your way out of a clinch, its a totally different thing to holding and hitting. Mexican fighters have turned it into an artform, just like Floyd and B-hop have turned running into an art)
    - Biased referee (wrong, its called incompetence, not bias, and it hardly gave Hatton any advantage at all. He was a poor referee but it wasnt what cost Tszyu the fight.)
    - Hometown advantage (true to a point, but if Tsyzu cant handle the pressure then he shouldn't be the champion. Tszyu fought all over the world, nothing fazed him, not even the insane crowd in the MEN Arena that night)

    This is all revisionist history. Before the fight Tszyu was the big favourite, and credit where its due my friend, Hatton won fair and square. It wasnt even a decision, he beat Tszyu so badly that he couldnt carry on any more. This is a more impressive victory than anything Floyd has accomplished in his career.

    Oh yeah, by the way, Hatton DID get caught flush by many monstrous Kostya Tszyu right-hands. And he just walked through them. He has an iron chin, one of the best in the sport. If Kostyz couldn't hurt him, Floyd certainly wont.

    Hatton thoroughly outboxed and then nearly decapitated one of the most awkward and un-orthodox boxers I've ever seen. Maussa isn't anything special, but Hatton did a paint job on him. Ordinary my arse.


    Here's the big one. Hatton took a fight with Luiz Collazo at short notice, at 147lbs, against a much bigger and very underrated southpaw who has fast hands and excellent skills. Hatton is not a big light-welter, he's short and stocky, and he had trouble with the naturally bigger man. You can toss a coin and decide the winner of that fight it was so close. But it wasnt a robbery, and it wasn't an upset, and at the end of the day Hatton got the decision. Not his most impressive performance, but when you really analyze it, this was a very difficult task for anyone to accomplish. If Hatton were **** he'd have been beaten that night, if he wasnt the real deal he'd have been found out long before this, but if by some chance he fluked a win over Kostya Tsyzu, he would've been ruthlessly beaten and exposed that night in boston. If Hatton was as bad as your saying he'd have been KO'd, because all the factors in the fight were against him.

    Average? Are you sure? Because I saw Jose Luis Castillo, the toughest of the tough, get obliterated and stopped in 4 one-sided rounds. What fight did you watch? Has anyone else EVER done that to Castillo before? No.

    Like I said earlier, it wasn't the win, it was the way in which he won that makes it impressive. If Hatton had battled to a close decision then you'd be spot on, but to stop one of the toughest men I've ever seen in the boxing ring with a bodyshot is actually pretty ****ing impressive. This is JOSE LUIS CASTILLO were talking about. I know he wasn't at his best, but even a past-his-prime Castillo could hang in there against the elite at 140lbs. I expected Hatton to win, I didn't expect him to win so conclusively and with such a brutal one-punch KO. That my friend is impressive.


    Hatton is a top-draw A+ world class undefeated fighter, which plenty of good wins on his resume. You can do smoke and mirrors for a while, but once you reach the top if you aint got it you will get exposed. Hatton has been at the top for the last 2-3 years and has faced half a dozen really dangerous fighters, and is yet to be exposed. Even if he loses to Mayweather, then so what? All that proves is that Mayweather is the best, many great fighters have lost to Mayweather and it doesn't diminish their legacy, it just enhances Floyd's.

    You sir, as is said in the crude internet parlance, have been "pwned." Good day.
     
  12. greengloves

    greengloves Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what a post,absolutly owned mate.hatton is a great fighter and just because he's moving up a division doesnt make him any less of a great fighter,everything hatton has done since gettin of his arse and beating magee to dominating kt has shown class and for someone to try and diminish what hatton has achieved is totally disrespectful.
    good luck to both men on saturday night,both are greats of modern boxing.
    love from ireland!
     
  13. heidegger

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    Wow, looks like I really have the ability to get the Hatton nuthuggers in a spin. I dont really have the time now to respond (thats not a back out I will later), but that post was so full of omission and spurious, oportunistic, desperate reasoning that it makes me wonder if you, obviously an intelligent guy, actually believe it. For example, the claim that Kostya wasnt ring rusty is downright ridiculous. You clearly have a Hatton defending agenda as youre defending Hatton against criticisms I never even made. I honestly wouldnt be surprised if you were a member of Hattons family or something. I really feel complimented that I must have rattled the delusions of a diehard Hatton fan so to compell him to such a long, laboured response. Good day.
     
  14. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    For someone who you state has impressed so little, he seems to have got himself into the most impressive of positions.
     
  15. heidegger

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    Like you would have a clue. You would jump up and down applauding like a ****** any praise of Hatton. 'Both are greats of modern boxing". Hatton does not deserve to be included in any kind of 'both' scenario with Floyd. He is not fit to carry his jock straps. Hatton a great of modern boxing. Jesus. Im about to vomit. Love from Ireland. Lofl. That says it all really. Get a grip.