Hatton = Fraud

There is more to Ricky's career than Emmanual Agustus. Hatton is not a fraud. In a way by saying that Hatton is a fraud, people are saying that Pacman is not that good. Is that what they mean? I think Hatton was good and Pacman just was better.

 

I've always thought he wsa overrated. You see what happened to him when he didn't hold like he usually did against past opponents. Pacquiao made him look like a sparring partner.

 

I like Pac and respect him, but why would he jump to another level. Look. at how Hatton fought last night, tell me what person, beside Malinaggi, at 140 wouldn't have taken him out in 2, especially top 10

The only difference between Ricky Hatton and Junior Witter is Hatton fought a faded Koysta and got KO'd by PBF and Manny, would you agree? If you do, do you suggest Junior Witter is also a HOF?

Hatton is a fraud and like the Oscar win, Manny's win over Hatton is overrating him. I just hope he doesn't buy into it and recognizes he had a great set of circumstances. I guarantee you he won't fight any real 140 or 135 champs, he knows better, I guess he is cashing out now.

 

Good points Reg...but fraud? Nope.

 

Hatton beat Urango on my card. But the fact of the matter is "so what". Who was Urango? The fight only ever happened because the vacant IBF was on the line. Hatton could have found far better opponents to fight. Facts remain he didnt and chose to take the easiest challenges.

His fans repeat the same old lines P4P this P4P that. Then conviently forget BOTH men were shot fighters. One has gone on to retire and the other cant barely make 147 anymore and fights once in a blue moon. As for Pac and PBF theres one reason why those fights happened. The mighty $$$. Lets not kid ourselves this is what the sport is about fundamentally. Hatton KNEW HOW to make money and had alot of people fooled including himself. But the dirty laundry always comes out in the wash.

 

I love that poster you got, and I agree. I'd take Pacquiao to TKO the shaven ape in 9 and then go bash Vitali in a fight of the year candidate!!!

 

Hatton's a world class fighter who lost to two legends. No shame in that. His defense is his downfall.

 

De La Hoya gave Mayweather a tougher fight, so did Castillo even in the rematch.

Hatton made Mayweather work harder but he wasn't landing much, and nearly all of the clean punches taken in that fight were taken by him, not PBF. The official scorecards were a much more accurate representation of the fight than how Harold Lederman had it.

Calling Hatton a "fraud" is a bit extreme. Hatton was a legit world class fighter, he beat a great fighter, albeit aging, who was a long-reigning champ. He beat some other top-ranked guys in a not-so-strong division.

But he's not exactly the smartest guy in there, and his p4p ranking was questionable (I don't take p4p too seriously anyway). He has a lot of fundamental flaws and does stupid things in there. He gets hurt and later KO'd against PBF by leaping in with his hook. He does it again against Lazcano and gets rocked. He does it again against Pacquiao and gets dropped. He often totally neglects to move his head or block punches. The technique on his right hand is poor.

 

not a fraud by any means...that is just ****ing dumb...he is just not in the ELITE class...he holds too much and bullies...and u know what happens when the bully gets bulliied

 

Its true. Hatton has always been a big fraud full of hype. Now that he fights a real fighter he gets owned.

 

If Ricky had not fought Floyd in 2008 (or if Floyd had only been over 40 years of age) and had fought someone like the 35 year old Witter in 2009 instead of Pac (and mauled and held his way to a hometown decision) he could have retired 46-0 or 47-0 and it would be argued that he was an ATG.

The same can be said of Calzaghe. If you watch the Eubank fight he gets caught over and over again by right hands that he never sees and can't avoid. Eubank was way past peak and with the exception of three of the first four rounds it can be argued that the decision could have went the other way - it was a close fight. After Eubank, Joe doesn't fight a fighter even as good as that past peak version of Eubank for about ten years (if not the rest of career, the exception being BH who was as gray as Gandalf when he fought Joe). Eleven years after Eubank, a completely shot RJJ and an ancient Bernard Hopkins both hit Joe with right hands he couldn't see nor avoid and he got dropped.

It is all about comp. Records can be illusions. Props to Ricky for having the balls to challenge the best. Unfortunately, biased refs, predisposed judges, leaning officials, and favorable hometown conditions only mask a fighter's weaknesses. If you can manage to avoid facing great fighters for an entire career or only when they are past it then you can have a long and profitable career. Hopefully these occurrences will be less and less frequent. If you can avoid facing great fighters perhaps you can stay pristine and still be sturdy well into your thirties. Ricky chose to face great fighters in their prime and these KOs are adding up and his punch resistance looks questionable at best. He's 30 and he's near done.

Joe escaped with his 46-0 and some argue he's an ATG. But it's not so. Eubank said Joe was easy to hit and that Joe didn't seem to be able to see the punches coming. That is because while being a very good fighter he isn't that combination of being a great athlete and a great fighter. The reflexes and vision of the real elites are just at a higher level. Just as Pac demolished Hatton, prime RJJ (and many, many others from middleweight on up of the past several generations) would have done the exact same thing to Joe. If he had had to face more Eubank level fighters he would have inevitably been broken down and not gotten to the end of his career with his chin in tact.

Hatton's career has been carefully managed. When he actually had to step up and fight some prime, elite comp, he got destroyed both times.

The last great fighter out of the UK, is Lennox Lewis.

 

One of the truest posts I've ever read.

 

Its a poor day when a fighter who has been lineal champ for 4 years and has defended successfully against multiple belt holders in that division gets **** like this for losing to 2 ATGs.

 

:good

Others will call it heresy.

 

You are in no position to call anyone a fraud :deal