Hatton is better than Calzaghe !!!!!

Tszyu is the only fighter Hatton beat better than David "I practically shut-out Clinton Woods" Starie.

 

Hatton looked like Lacy against Mayweather but with less of a beatdown. They both just walked forward and got there ass pimped.

 

This topic is about who is better, Hatton or Calzaghe.
And it seems like half the people commenting on this think that because Calzaghe is a more talented boxer that it is obviously him. But it isn't about the more skilled boxer, it's about who is better at what they do in the sport. Boxer or fighter. Hatton is a come forward, all aggression fighter whose best win came in making the p4p #2/#3 fighter in world quit on his stool - he did this in his own country, and in his own weight division. Calzaghe is a skilled boxer whose best wins were against 2 opponents who hadn't beat enough top fighters to be ranked in anyone's p4p list - he did this in his own country, and in his own weight division.
So based on achievements in their own divisions, Hatton beat the better opposition.

Nearly every post claiming Calzaghe is BETTER than Hatton contain the names Mayweather and Collazo in the reasoning why, but when comparing Joe and Ricky there is no comparison to Mayweather and Collazo - because Joe stopped where Ricky continued to challenge himself; outside his own division, and outside his own country.

Calzaghe is better technically, Hatton is a better fighter. Hatton has achieved more by beating Tsyzu, and then he moved out of the comfort zone to test himself, and until Calzaghe proves he can succeed where Hatton failed; Hatton is still better.

 

Well said

 

By your definition to be better you just have to do more not actually be the better boxer? I disagree, being better makes you better. Ricky may have fought in vegas, he may have moved out of his comfort zone but this is just doing more than Joe not doing it better. Or when Joe fights B-Hop in the US outside of his comfort zone will you then consider him better?

 

Got to agree on this like..... hattons defense as shown in the last 4-5 fights is complete GARBAGE and he gets exposed by clever punchers EASILY. Calzaghe has a golden ability that hatton doesnt posess.... that he can adapt his game at any notice and fight a different fight to his advantage. remember the ashira fight where cal broke his hand in round 3!!! he adapted his plan and still shut out ashira with 1 hand, hatton would be mincemeat with one of his hands gone in a fight.

 

No, I never said you "just have to do more", I said comparing Calzaghe and Hatton for what they have done in their own divisions, Light Welter and Super Middle. Hatton acheived more by beating the better fighter, in a top 3 p4p Kostya Tsyzu. Calzaghe has never beaten anyone close to a fighter of that regard.
That's where any comparison has to end regarding these two, because Calzaghe has never fought a Collazo or a Mayweather. He never fought outside his own weight.

Hatton's best 140 wins are; Tszyu, Castillo, Maussa, Urango... 3 world titles.
Calzaghe's best 168 wisns are; Kessler, Lacy, Eubank... 3 world titles.

And the big difference in those is 1 opponent is a p4p fighter and one of the best all time in his weight division. Kostya Tszyu, who going into the fight was unbeaten in 8 years.

This ends the comparisons, that is what both fighters did in their weight divisions. Hatton as far as I'm concerned, bettered Joe.

Then Hatton moved up for a new challenge and fought Collazo, and he only won a close decision. But you can't say Calzaghe bettered that, because Calzaghe never moved up to fight Chad Dawson for the WBC title... How would he get on? no one knows because he hasn't done it. Hatton was a 1/9 favourate going into the Collazo fight, everyone thought he'd walk it, but it didn't happen. Calzaghe has to show that he CAN do better.
Than Hatton moved up again to fight the #1 p4p guy, the only comparison Calzaghe could have to this is if he'd done it 5 years ago when Roy was in the same positioned as Floyd is now, but Joe didn't do it.

Compare them at 140/168 where they're fighting peers, not 147/175 - because if you do that Hatton is better because he's acheived a world title at 147. Calzaghe hasn't even acheived a win at 175.

 

calzaghe is a better fighter. how can hatton be better? only thing that i can say is that i have much more respect for hatton then i ever will for calzaghe due to wanting the big fights. but then again with warren as your promoter the big fights were never likely for calzaghe.

 

You want to know how can Hatton be better?
By proving it; he beat guys with better wins than Mundine, Sheika and Vanderpool.

How can Calzaghe be a better fighter until he proves it?

 

what rubbish

if hes a technically better boxer then he is better. fullstop.

we are not comparing resumes here, they are irrelevent

i think kindelan is a better boxer than casamayor

how can i use resume to prove that. i cant but i can use technical ability.

 

sleaze ball are you 5 yrs of age or somet!!! calzaghe has proved it all now by being a champion at all levels in his division which is something hatton has not proved for 1 - secondly - the art of boxing is not to get hit - just look at saturday for hatton - calzaghe on the other hand is scratch free on every fight - & third is not to lose - hatton has not fit any of my points therefore the winner on this topic is calzaghe - cannot believe sleazeball & the flid witter are still arguing!!

 

Oh yes, I forgot what a masterful boxer Calzaghe is, he has been dropped by Byron Mitchell and Kabary Salem atsch

You say he's been a "champion at all levels in his division", you mean Tocker Pudwill level, Mger Mkrtchian level, Miguel Angel Jimenez level, Peter Manfredo level... I understand what you're saying,
He hasn't fought consistantly at a high level, like Hatton has demanded since the Tszyu fight. Everyone Hatton fought since was a world champion, aside from Castillo, who himself has proven more as a fighter than anyone Calzaghe has beaten.

And stake501, I'm not comparing resumes, I'm comparing fighters but they have to have fought someone to prove that they are better. Calzaghe has fought no one on the level of Tsyzu and Mayweather, to prove he can do what Hatton has done.

 

No i meant Witter level - if he can take all the belts at light welter then he may stand a little chance in this argument but hatton hasnt really achieved any thing but beating an old castillo & old tsyzu - i really think this comes down to poor management - i think he should have stayed with warren

 

For most people, You're either the champion or you're not. How many of the various titles you hold doesn't mean that much in boxing today.
When Hatton beat Tszyu he was the 140 champion.
When Calzaghe beat Eubank he held a WBO title and fought no other title holders for 9 years until he fought Lacy for the recognised 168 championship.

Hatton has been linear champion at 140 for over 2 years.
Calzaghe has been linear champion at 168 for over 1 year.

 

omg where u live u need a severe beating