Hatton is better than Calzaghe !!!!!

This man knows the score - well said.

 

All true Newbie. :good

 

Calzaghe is a better boxer than hatton imo.

Calzaghe has:
1. Better hand speed.
2. Better Jab
3. Better Defence
4. Better Headmovement
5. Better Adaptability
6. Better Ring Generalship
7. Better Samina/Workrate

Hatton has:

1. Better Power (p4p)

Who is the better fighter is not who has the best resume, it is who is the better fighter.
Hatton has arguably better wins it doesn't mean he is a better fighter.

 

I cannot believe this thread has got to 7 pages.

Incredible.

 

So how does one prove they are the better fighter? By beating the best fighters in the world. Calzaghe can jab Evans Ashira's head off all night, or he can outclass an unproven Lacy.
What is Calzaghe's stamina like when he's getting hit by a p4p fighter like Tszyu? We know Hatton's stamina is fine. We know Hatton's adaptability is fine because most people thought he had to be clever against Tszyu, but he didn't - he just had to break his heart. Boxing is not about who boxes more cleverly or who has a better jab - it's about who wins with their own game. Tszyu was a better technical boxer, it didn't matter.

If Hatton and Calzaghe were the same weight, would Hatton break Calzaghe or would Calzaghe box too good for Hatton. All we know is Mayweather, the best p4p, was too good for Hatton a weight up. As for Calzaghe we don't know, he's never tried anything like that.

How can it not be about the fighters they've fought? That's the only way to prove you're better. You can't prove you're a better fighter by having a better jab against inferior opponents.

 

Manchester United never play soccerball against Shrewsbury Town either but should they play each other, I know where my money would be going. But how would we know who's better? Manchester plays against different teams to Shrewsbury.

As for questioing Calzaghe's stamina... well... that's just idiotic.

 

That's actually generous to Hatton; Calzaghe carried very good power early in his career before his hand injuries, and even had Kessler hurt a couple of times. Hattons power is OK at 140 (though nothing special), and he couldn't crack an egg at 147.

 

I don't understand the comparison to football or why you'd not use a boxing one.

As for Calzaghe's stamina, it's not just that I'm questioning. I'm questioning Calzaghe; His jab, footwork, handspeed, workrate... and everything else. Because he's not proven any of it works against the best p4p fighters in the world. Because he hasn't fought any of them.

The best comparison between two fighters is Calzaghe and Ottke. Virtually the same record, proved the same as each other. Wouldn't leave their home country to fight the best p4p fighters. Proven unambitious to the point of pathetic.
But maybe they were better than Hatton, maybe we'll never know.
I can't say either is a better fighter than Hatton until I see it. Ottke has lost that chance, Calzaghe has nearly lost it by wasting over 10 years fighting no top level guys.

All I'm saying is, If Calzaghe is better or worse than Hatton is unknown until he shows it one way or the other. As of now Hatton's the only one who has shown it.

It makes me a little bit sad to think that 90% of people on this board rate Calzaghe over Hatton based on what he looks like against unproven fighters at home, when Hatton has done everything he could to get the biggest names in the sport.
I'm glad there are fighters like Hatton, Lacy and Kessler in boxing. Otherwise those three guys would still be unbeaten and still fighting in their home towns defending their title. Just like Calzaghe and Ottke.

 

A wasted post - I didn't read it

 

It's a good job you didn't read it, because you wouldn't be able to answer it anyway.

 

Read it. It does make sense.

 

Well said, totally agree. :good

 

This thread all comes down to interpritation. I believe better to mean capable of more, which Calzaghe is.
Some people quite clearly think better means achieved more, which Hatton has. Different opinions are a wonderful thing.

 

even so hatton has not achieved to what calzghe has - if your cvs come to me for a job & i said what have you achieved then calzaghe wins hands down - thats what counts surely - & if you made the mistake which hatton has twice now then these are surely what goes against this debate..

 

You're not capable of more if you're never going to step up.