Hatton-Mayweather

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  1. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Any thoughts on this? I personally am going with Floyd. Not that this is always an indicator, but he's the bigger guy. Ricky is fighting above his best weight.
     
  2. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    Why is so much made of Hatton being smaller? He will come into the ring bigger than Mayweather and he didn't start off at super-featherweight like Mayweather. Hatton isn't at a 'size disadvantage'
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I agree with Pat. The issue is Ricky's size and how it will affect his speed, not Floyd's size.
     
  4. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Size is irrelevant. Mayweather has never been one to impose himself physically. He's not going to try to overpower Hatton, rather it's the other way around. Hatton is physically stronger and the more vicious puncher. He'll probably outweight him too as has been mentioned.

    Having said that, I'm expecting Mayweather to cruise to a decision. I'd love to see a bit of a fight, but Floyds skill levels are off the chart. They say he struggles with pressure, but I don't neccessarily agree. Noone has figured out how to crack his style. He's the rubix cube of boxing.
     
  5. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I'm going with Mayweather by a wide decision. Although Hatton is a great fighter, I think he's a bit out of Floyd's league.
     
  6. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    Heart says: Hatton TKO
    Head says: Mayweather, UD


    I hope my heart is correct. :good
     
  7. Holmes' Jab

    Holmes' Jab Master Jabber Full Member

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    You're probably correct, although I want Hatton to win.;)
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah I think I'd like to see Hatton pull it off. I'm getting pretty tired of Floyd's arrogant bull**** myself.
     
  9. bill poster

    bill poster Guest

    Whenever Floyds opponents have got him hurt they havent had the instinct or savvy to finish it (chop chop) but Hatton has the killer instinct and is arguably one of the best fighters apart from an old DelaHoya to face him so he has a very good chance of causing the upset
     
  10. Strangely Brown

    Strangely Brown Member Full Member

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    I haven't seen Mayweather fight (I'm on the other side of the Atlantic) but if he's anything like I hear then Hatton will not get close to him. If Floyd really fancies it, I think he could stop Hatton inside 6.
     
  11. radianttwilight

    radianttwilight Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a good point- Corley had PBF in trouble but was unable to capitalize on it, one of the lesser-known aspects of PBF's career.

    He's not invincible, if you hit him hard enough he WILL get hurt.
     
  12. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Hatton is slightly fighting above his best weight. He weighed-in against Collazo around 147lbs, but he won't be near that when he steps onto the scales December 7th.

    Mayweather himself isn't a massive welterweight, and he's not naturally much bigger than Hatton. The Hatton camp feel weighing-in as low as possible will enchance his speed and mobility. Hatton doesn't need to come in too heavy. Different matter if he was up against Margarito or De La Hoya.


    Hatton will probably weigh about 143lbs pound, maybe less.


    Mayweather UD.
     
  13. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Although I will be rooting for hatton, I excpect a rather scientific display by PBF ending in a decision. I won't rule Hatton out....He did not look very good the last time he tried to move up, but all signs point to him having learned from that. If he is able to carry over his work load and endurance he has the tools to pull this out. A big factor could be how tightly this contest is ref'd...if hatton is allowed to employ his rough house tactics and keep this fight on the inside I would not be surprised if he wins this...but again although I think he is capable of winning this it seems like everything needs to go in his favor....let's go Ricky....but don't bet on it!
     
  14. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This match-up has similarities to Oscar v. Floyd and even Calzaghe v. Kessler. Oscar and Kessler had the answer keys in their possession but failed to employ it. We saw glimpses of the proper way to defeat Calzaghe and Floyd -both of whom are really rythym fighters. Floyd relies on speed and finesse, Calzaghe is out to break your rythym by making your head spin with punch variety and speed and angle change-ups. The trick is not to let them.

    Most boxers fail to understand that boxing is not square dancing... you see this in sparring when fighters look as if they are going through the motions and are more worried about conserving energy than imposing their will. Boxing asks the question: "Who is the tyrant?" In one of his later rants, Tyson proclaimed "He's not Alexander, I am Alexander." That is about right. Unfortunately, Tyson forgot this when he stepped into the ring to fight Lennox and thus became Alexander "the Grape" instead of "the Great".

    When Oscar put Floyd's back on the ropes, he neutralized Floyd's advantages. Floyd was getting caught and did not look comfortable there in the least. He sought to show off and when caught, he's looking to angle out. Speed guys ain't comfortable when squared off and pinned. Hell, Floyd kept ducking down at the waist to his right like an amateur and Oscar had a left hook just begging to launch.

    Watch round 4 and 12 of Calzaghe-Kessler. Kessler played bull to the matador and it worked. Calzaghe is a disruptive matador who tries to slip you a mickey and then take over. Kessler failed to see this, although he recognized it before the fight (saying that Joe "spoils your boxing"). Kessler, being one-dimensional, operated simplistically. He forgot his strength and therefore did not utilize it to ignore the tricks that Joe was pulling and get close and use power as a controlling agent. Kessler would punch 1 or 2 times, then when Joe fired back with flurries or off-balance nonsense, what did Kessler do? He jumped back with his hands up... that was all wrong. All wrong. He was a nervous bull. When he wasn't, he had the answers.

    Floyd v. Hatton. I would like to see Hatton take notes on recent history. Pressure fighters are best equipped to beat rythym fighters. However, if they fail to take over, if they basically play Ginger Rogers to Fred Astaire, then forget it. Hatton must be what De La Hoya and Kessler were not--- Hatton must be ferocious. He must be indomitable, disrespectful of Floyd's power, a risk-taker, a body-banger, He must be a disdainful Alexander who is 100% confident in his conditioning.

    Duran-Leonard I. Frazier-Ali I. Marciano made a career out of it. Manny Pac is building a legacy out of it. Armstrong launched himself to the stratosphere based on that theory.

    ....Regardless of how great the artist, he can't paint in the middle of a thunderstorm.
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    De La Hoya's jab was landing on a regular basis over the first 7 rounds. While coming forward he'd throw the jab, Mayeather would pull back in a straight line then hit the ropes, this allowed De La Hoya to trigger off bursts. The jab was the set-up weapon.

    Agreed that Mayweather never looked comfortable pinned on the ropes. A stationary target was there for De La Hoya. But his bombs were blocked, parcially blocked, or missed the target altogether. Very seldom was Mayweather taking clean punches.

    De La Hoya neutalized Mayweather's advantages, but a more orthodox fighter with less defensive attributes would have been more vulnerable on the ropes. Mayweather's slipping and use of the high right hand tucked neatly guarding his chin served him well. If you take Mayweather's movement away, his defense maybe aint quite as good, but its still rather solid.

    One of Mayweather's best punches of the fight was when he was backed up against the ropes. A powerful right uppercut landed flush, stopping De La Hoya in his tracks.

    Mayweather in one word while against the ropes. Sneaky.