Hatton-Mayweather

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by laxpdx, Nov 4, 2007.


  1. rydersonthestorm

    rydersonthestorm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This has to be one of the worst post's ever, i have never seen this guy fight but think he can stop a fellow world champion in 6 rounds :rofl:rofl
     
  2. Thread Stealer

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  4. Sizzle

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    "Mastery" is a bit of a stretch but Mayweather did do quite well with his back on the ropes - He landed some big shots when a desperate De La Hoya came swinging at him crudely by leaning back and countering.

    I don't think he'll do the same against Hatton who is a rougher fighter, a much more renowned body puncher and tends to have a very good workrate (not always, but lets assume he comes into the fight in his Kostya Tsyzu shape).

    Ali used the ropes very effectively Vs Foreman, a powerful but crude puncher, but when Frazier caught him in the same scenario during "the Thrilla in Manila" he punished him with his sharper more accurate punching on the ropes.

    I do agree De La Hoya may have had his best chance to hurt Mayweather when he was backed against the ropes - But he was crude and desperate rather than measured and scientific and consequently he wore himself out.
     
  5. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Doesn't your ass get sore sitting on the fence like that?

    Noone is asking you to bet thousands, just make a prediction. In fairness I can see you're leaning towards Floyd though.
     
  6. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    I think the type and caliber of fighters they have faced will show. Floyd has faced many styles and have adapted well while in mid fight. He has seen pressure, speed, power, a good jab, long armed fighters, tall fighters, small fighters you name it. The key here he has been dealing with pressure fighters pretty much all throughout his career so it wont be new to him and he will remain calm as always.....however Hatton has never seen this type of speed, movement, defense, and just overall boxing skills.

    The main factor in this fight will be can hatton while comming forward throw an effective jab to keep Floyd at bay and back him up. I think the answer is no for one he doesnt have a great jab and rarely has had to use it because his opponents tend to fight his game in fact im not sure he has ever had an opponent not fight into his hands. Fact is Hatton has short arms something the past two pressure fighters had were LONG arms which could back PBF up...Hatton doesnt have that so now he will have to here lung in quickly or try and walk him down and in doing so he will be peppered with punches while coming in and waist energy lunging at a moving target.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Excellent post.:good
     
  8. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali's rope-a-dope against Foreman required a dope, which was Foreman. It wouldn't have worked twice... the stars were aligned for Ali...but then why wouldn't they, he was Ali. Upholding that fight as any kind of argument in this case is using an exception to prove a norm. By 1975, Frazier had very little left -he did well in that fight for personal reasons. Ali has an assist by the ref as well, let's not forget that. Chronic holding is illegal. Had Ali stayed on the ropes in 1971, he'd have been knocked out.

    You accuse me of sitting on a fence. Yet this post reads like you are engaging in double speak:

    "Mayweather did quite well against the ropes."
    'Ali used the ropes very effectively against Foreman and Frazier."
    "I do agree that De La Hoya may have had his best chance to hurt Mayweather on the ropes, but, but, but."

    Choose a position. Is it or is it not generally wise for a slugger to put a mobile boxer's back on the ropes?
     
  9. Stonehands89

    Stonehands89 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Prophets make predictions. I offered you analysis.... and was pretty clear in asserting that Hatton's style is well-suited for Floyd's style given certain conditions. I was also clear on who I favored.

    I am going to be monitoring it in the upcoming weeks to see if any adjustments should be made but right now it has to be the man who is more comfortable at WW, more experienced, faster, more skilled, and with a 5 inch reach advantage to boot. That's Mayweather.
     
  10. valdez

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    couldnt of put it better..
     
  11. Robbi

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    If both came in at the welterweight limit then I'd favour Mayweather very strongly. But thats not going to happen. Mayweather has been at the weight longer, approximatley 2 years. Hatton did have a brief visit to welterweight previously, a 12 round struggle with Collazo, but that was a fight made on short notice.

    Hatton had 6 weeks to prepare for the move up, and he weighed-in on the limit.

    When fighting at 140lbs, he would come into the ring at 152lbs. But when making his welterweight debut against Collazo, he came in at 159lbs the night of the fight. This made for a sluggish performance. The Hatton camp have learned their lesson. Hatton isn't a natural welterweight.

    Even though Mayweather has fought at welterweight for a couple of years, and recently fought De La Hoya at jr middleweight, he's not naturally much bigger than Hatton.

    Hatton plans to weigh as light as possible, to retain his speed of hand and foot which he lacked when coming in too heavy against Collazo. Mayweather only puts on 4-5lbs max from weigh-in to the night of the fight.

    I predict Hatton will weigh-in around 142-143lbs.
     
  12. john b

    john b EVERTON 0- OLdham 1 Full Member

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    Very Good Post Apart from this discussion i have been hearing how mayweather going to take hatton apart like he did gatti. How I want to know how is gatti and hatton similar, because gatti was coming to the end of his career. Come On hatton make believers out of people whao have only seen a couple of your fights.
     
  13. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Just like to add extra to the above. Hatton will weigh-in closer to 140lbs than the welterweight limit 147lbs. It was confirmed by the Hatton camp two months ago.
     
  14. brooklyn1550

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