Hatton quote about being P4P #1

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  1. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    "I'm returning to Vegas, fighting my nearest rival [Malignaggi] and have the chance to become the best fighter on the planet by beating Oscar or Manny."

    Is it just me, or would Hatton not be considered the best fighter on the planet even if he did beat Oscar or Manny. He's bigger than Manny, and Oscar isn't even in the top 20.
     
    Addie, Sep 18, 2008
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  2. FlatNose

    FlatNose Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hatton is entitled to his delusion, I guess, however misguided.
    He wouldn't beat Paq in a month of Sundays anyhow.
     
    FlatNose, Sep 18, 2008
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  3. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Even if he would of beat Mayweather last december while he was in the top 10 I still wouldnt have put him at #1 p4p.
     
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  4. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yes, but it sounds a lot better to say that other than "Pacquiao and the Fishnet would be huge paydays for me".
     
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  5. jupzrooni

    jupzrooni Tyler Durden Full Member

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    did you mean bigger in popularity or bigger in frame?
     
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  6. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Exactly. All that fight would have proved was that Mayweather was never a great 147lb fighter.

    Likewise, if Hatton was to defeat Manny Pacquiao, it would just prove that Manny isn't big enough for 140lb.

    If he was to defeat Oscar, he would have beat a past it version, who isn't even in the top 20 P4P let alone top 10.

    I think Hatton thinks if you beat the P4P #1 then you automatically take that mantle, regardless of circumstances.
     
    Addie, Sep 18, 2008
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  7. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Bigger in frame.

    Hatton is natural 140lb fighter, whereas Manny has only campaigned as high as 130. I don't think Manny could take any full blooded shots from Hatton let alone Oscar.
     
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  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    How many P4P top ten fighters would Hatton have to beat to rate as P4P number one, just out of interest?
     
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  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    If he beat everyone at 140, fighters that are his size, then he would get a lot of credit. I think considering the talent at 140, he would have to go up to 147 and beat some guys like Williams or Margarito to be considered the best. The reason I don't think a win over Manny would make him #1 is because we don't even know if Manny can compete at that level as a light-welterweight. Would we really consider it a great victory if Hatton beat Pacquiao? I have my doubts.
     
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  10. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    Is this really Oscars plan. Beat Manny and then beat Hatton???? Just ****ing fight Margarito already!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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  11. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Beating the no1 contender in his division should get him back in the p4p top 10 in my opinion.

    Manny will be fighting oscar next (who has faught at Junior middle), and Manny made a mess of Diaz at 135. Hatton is the same size as manny.

    If Hatton beats the p4p no1 he desvers to be ranked faily highley, I wouldnt put him at no 1 though.
     
    JonOli, Sep 18, 2008
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  12. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    I can see that argument, although I'm not sure I agree.

    I have a lot more trouble with your argument that Hatton, a natural 140lber wouldn't get credit for beating Mayweather, an unbeaten P4P number one who had already campaigned successfully beating the linear champion and previous linear champion at 147lb.

    Let me phrase it another way. If Hatton had beaten Mayweather, you say he wouldn't be P4P number one. You say if he beat Pacquaio now you wouldn't consider him P4P number one.

    If he'd beaten Mayweather and now beat Pacquiao (adding to his victories over consensus P4P top three Tszyu, and Castillo who I did not personally rate so highly at that stage but was still in The Ring top ten P4P), what then? And if Hatton wasn't number one, who the hell would be?
     
    Cobbler, Sep 18, 2008
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  13. JonOli

    JonOli Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has been the champion there for several years, is fighting the ring no1 contender next, and is the same size as Pac.
     
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  14. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Maybe Oscar's plan is to beat Manny so that GBP fighter Juan M Marquez can move from number two to number one. :good
     
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  15. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I wouldn't drop Manny from the #1 P4P spot for moving up and losing to Oscar. But I already have JMM above him on my list. :good
     
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