Hatton to be trained by Roach

You`ll have to forgive me as I didn`t see those threads but the comparisons you make are fair ones.

I suppose you could add the Danny Williams/ Mike Tyson one as well, no matter what anyone says the name is on the record no matter what condition the big name fighter was in.

But we all know Tszyu wasn`t in his prime and was at the end of his career while Castillos best performances were at lightweight.

 

I can't argue with either of those points. I think the Zoo win is pretty credible, although past his best the guy was a dominant career 140lber who had just flattened Sharmba Mitchell 6 months ealier whereas Castillo was more of a "job well done" against a guy clearly on the downward slope and fighting outside his natural weight.

 

I think the reason why McGuigan got to fight Pedroza was quite simple...

They would have got Azumah Nelson for half the money that they had to pay Pedroza... Azumah Nelson would have marmalised McGuigan...

Pedroza was well on the slide.. I think that McGuigan had a harder fight against Juan La Porte in the final eliminator IMO :yep

 

You're right, that right hand he caught off Laporte in the 8th or 9th (??) nearly spun Barrys head around. Pedroza was getting on and McGuigan, like Hatton, made the old champ work at a rate he wasn't comfortable with,

 

The 9th Gaz... shook him to his boots.. straight down the pipe... held on for dear life.. I thought that McGuigan should have been able to have stopped Pedroza in the 7th when he put him down... Do you agree that Azumah Nelson would have beat McGuigan? :think

 

Yep Nelson was a different class. I've seen an interview where even Barry, fair play to him, admits that Nelson would have been too much for him.

 

Gaz.. Do you do the predictions league on here?

 

I did Decebels but thats seems to have gone to the wall. I did the Brit one for a week or so but I found myself guessing once the level of fight got below a certain level, once you havn't seen either of the boxers you're being asked to pick a winner from it just becomes a Boxrec search exercise and I didn't really want to do it that way (if that makes sense??).

 

Total sense...:good

 

Tszyu wasn't "past it" - he was 36 FFS - younger than Calzaghe, not some old man.
He went 11 rounds with Hatton who had the best fight of his career, and there was only one round in it by most judges' scorecards.

Why to Brits have to turn on their own so viciously and try to ruin notions of success? Tszyu was a title holder who owned everyone in the states at the time - including Julio Cesar Chavez. It was a cracking fight up until Tszyu quit, which Hatton had to bust a gut for.

Kostya Tszyu was no lame duck that night -- not many light welterweights now would have beaten him over twleve rounds. Why to you have to rewrite history and make it some sort of underachievement??

 

Man, I saw this thread, had a quick look, got bored VERY quickly, & theres a reason for that my friends.
Now I admit, that I didnt read the thread right through, thats cos I found out who the guy that started this rumour off was, & hes the biggest bullshiter thats ever walked the internet.

Everyones dicks are getting hard here at the thought of Freddie training Hatton, but it aint gonna happen if you ask me.

 

I doubt any trainer could have helped Hatton at this stage of his career against Pacman though I am not a fan of Floyd Mayweather Senior who is not a patch on Uncle Roger Mayweather.

 

I think you're right the outcome would have been the same whoever trained him at this stage of his career.

 

Azumah was definitely in a different class to Barry who shamefully avoided him. At least Hatton fought Tyzu, PBF & Pacman.

 

Tszyu owned a 38 year old Julio Cesar Chavez who was years past his best? Hardly something to boast about is it?

Dick you dont seem to realise that the smaller guys are on the slide after they reach 32.The bigger guys tend to slide a few years later .............