Hatton v Khan who would British ESB'ers be backing?

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  1. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    The MAB fight has no doubt helped the lad because it is the first "big name" on his resume, shot or not, hurt or not, it's better then beating the likes of ***an (no offence to him). However it is not the reason I now like and root for Amir, he has won me round with his attitude.

    Like many pre-Prescott fight fans I hated Amir Khan and was just looking for him to get knocked out (and loved it when he did), however since then he has to me shown a great attitude. He hasn't to my knowledge made excuses about Prescott beating him and has said somewhere down the line he HAS to rematch and beat him, which is what I like to here. He has also opened a gym in Bolton to help teach kids to box, he has gone to the best place in the world to learn his craft and I was impressed that he didn't have everyone kicked out of the gym when he trains (when Roach offered), listening to him in interviews he sounds like a young kid looking at the stars which makes him seem arrogant at times because he has been so well publasized since his silver medal victory, all these factors combined with the visible improvement in terms of his defence and thinking have helped win me round.

    Getting back on topic, I would want Amir Khan to win however it would hurt for it to be at the expense of Ricky Hatton but just like Lewis vs Bruno it would serve as a passing of the torch. I was almost in tears that night when Lewis stopped Bruno on the ropes after he took those monster shots (although I was only 8!) and I had hoped that Bruno would call it a day after that fight. This is what I would like for Ricky, I would like Amir to beat him and win back some more fans, I think it will be a very long time and have to be a long list of fighters for Khan to get on his resume before he will ever get respect from the majority of fans and I think Hatton would be a good notch on the belt. It is also a fight Hatton would not take too many killer blows in, most likely just get out boxed and eventually beaten on pts or a late KO (I know Hatton has diminished punch resistance but I can't see Khan hitting a killer one shot punch) if Khan could stick to the game plan all night.

    PS. I'd love seeing the columns and threads from yank ESB'ers saying how much of a disgrace this fight is and how they want nobody to win (ala the double ko guy in this thread), whilst we have ourselves a sell out crowd at hopefully Wembley where they'd see real passion from boxing fans.
     
  2. BIG WORM

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    i tell you how the fight would go.....

    hatton comes out, n gets cleaned out in a couple of seconds, his chin is shyte, and khan hits too quick and too hard at 140..
     
  3. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    Wow you've been to the future and seen Amir fight at 140? How does his career pan out in the end? Also how bias can a guy be when an Amir Khan fan calls out Ricky Hatton's chin?
     
  4. widdy

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    good one baileys,i like your style:good
     
  5. Grant1

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  6. Darni187

    Darni187 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I want to see first how Khan vs Kotelnik at 140 pans out before calling this. One thing I can point out is that Hatton cant handle speed, and Khan is faster than even Manny.
     
  7. slapsSOgood

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    I wanna see Khan v Witter
     
  8. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dear God, I despair sometimes! Care to tell us when you last saw Khan fight at 140 to make this judgement? Besides, a fan of Khan calling any fighter's chin shyte would be like an MP having a go at me for fiddling my expenses!
     
  9. "TKO"

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    I don't know where this myth has come from that Hatton can't handle speed. Malignaggi had speed and he got handled. Speed is a difficulty for any fighter, but you need more than that to beat Hatton. Pac managed it because he has immense power and Hatton didn't keep his gloves up. Mayweather managed it because he outfought Hatton on the inside. If Hatton's footwork is good enough to get inside Mayweather, I would be he can do it on Khan. Plus, I reckon as soon as one of those heavy hooks or right hands landed, Khan would be doing the funky chicken again.

    Personally, I can see Kotelnik beating Khan, or it is at least a 50/50 fight. I don't see why some people are assuming this is some kind of walkover for Khan.
     
  10. Evil Rich

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    [QUOTE="TKO";4323617]Personally, I can see Kotelnik beating Khan, or it is at least a 50/50 fight. I don't see why some people are assuming this is some kind of walkover for Khan.[/QUOTE]

    I don't think many people are mate, I think this will be the harder test for Khan. If he beats Kotelnik convincingly I would be betting on Khan to beat Hatton. For me it's the real test of Amir, to come thru an under rated, workmen world champion.
     
  11. "TKO"

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    Hmm... yes and no. I said when I saw this fight mentioned that it was clever matchmaking by Frank Warren. Khan is now a hot property with the casual crowd on the back of the Barrera win (ringworn though Barrera obviously was), but it's surely only a matter of time before he gets bingoed again with that chin. So what does FW do, get him a title shot at the one beltholder at 135-140 who is maybe featherfisted enough for him to stand a chance against. Skills wise, Khan matches up reasonably to Kotelnik and he has superior speed. Skills wise he matches up well to most at 135 or 140, it's just most of the top fighters are going to flatten him as soon as they land properly. Kotelnik is probably not one of them.

    As regards Hatton I'd have to see how he looked in a comeback, but if he's half the fighter I think he'd take out Khan.
     
  12. Darni187

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    [quote="TKO";4323617]I don't know where this myth has come from that Hatton can't handle speed. Malignaggi had speed and he got handled. Speed is a difficulty for any fighter, but you need more than that to beat Hatton. Pac managed it because he has immense power and Hatton didn't keep his gloves up. Mayweather managed it because he outfought Hatton on the inside. If Hatton's footwork is good enough to get inside Mayweather, I would be he can do it on Khan. Plus, I reckon as soon as one of those heavy hooks or right hands landed, Khan would be doing the funky chicken again.

    Personally, I can see Kotelnik beating Khan, or it is at least a 50/50 fight. I don't see why some people are assuming this is some kind of walkover for Khan.[/quote]

    Looking at Hatton's last outing, Hatton had no defence, no Head movement, he just went walking into Manny trying catch him with some wild hooks, a great gameplan vs P4P No.1. Manny who was once a flyweight put Hatton to sleep at his own weight with great speed, power, timing. Mayweather let Hatton in to show I can play you at your game, If Mayweather wanted he could kept on the move anyway how many shots did Hatton land on him when he was on the inside?. Hatton was a better fighter then, he is not the same now.

    The reason I was holding my outcome of Hatton-Khan because I wanted to see how he does vs Kotelnik and how 140 suits Khan. Any extra dig 140 for Khan could be great as any power adding to that speed could have a effect. When did I say this fight is a walk over for Khan?

    Dr.Roach knows Hatton's flaws and would plan a great plan for Khan.
     
  13. Evil Rich

    Evil Rich Tweety is PISSED off! Full Member

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    More eloquently put then I but this is what I was trying to get at. Hatton wouldn't be the same fighter, Khan would still be getting better and if he can get past someone with the quality of Kotelnik then I think he would have too much skill to be worried by Ricky at his age, prime for prime? Couldn't answer that cause Khan hasn't hit his and Ricky is out of his.
     
  14. GazOC

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    Prime for prime isn't even close IMHO.
     
  15. Darni187

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    :huh

    I didnt know fighters prime at 22yrs