Hatton v Paulie and Broner v Paulie . . . . . . . .

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  1. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

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    Why was a shot to **** hype-job like Hatton able to box the head off of Malignaggi, yet slick peaking superstar Adrien Broner struggled life and death with him?
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Because Hatton was great... better than Paulie and better than Broner even in 2008 form.
     
  3. seansanashee

    seansanashee Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hatton would have ****ed up Boner too, Hatton is seriously underrated on here.
     
  4. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    i think paulie is a rare breed- a fighter who gets better with age (and arguably weight)

    he always seemed so unbalanced at 140, just quick combos and ridiculous attempts at OTT defense and slips

    the later version of paulie at 147 seems to use his jab more effectively and actually more powerfully and thinks alot more and sets up his attacks to score points. Not to mention he blocks more conventionally now a days which has helped him alot and added to his impressive chin

    So apples and oranges really, styles make fights


    P.s. malignaggi would have been p4p material if he had KO power
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Incomparable. :nono

    The Malignaggi of today knocks the Malignaggi that fought Hatton clean out.

    That was the worst period of Malignaggi's career and will likely continue to be so even should he keep on another 3-4 years.

    His chemistry with Buddy McGirt was terrible, downright poisonous and he fought reluctantly in a style other than his own which almost ruined him.

    Physically he was closer to prime then and may have still had a touch more natural speed, but he was half the boxer then he was before then or is today.
     
  6. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    What IB says.

    It's pretty weird, I think WW Paulie, everything post-Khan, is the best we've seen from him.

    Early 140 Cotto/Ndou phase was good.
     
  7. Stylez G.

    Stylez G. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hatton was a swarmer with excellent foot speed. He's a stylistic problem for boxers as he limits their escape routes and turns it into an up close, ugly fight. Broner is used to guys coming right at him. He doesn't seem that comfortable coming forward. A guy like Paulie who makes him lead, and has good footwork is a tough matchup for Broner.
     
  8. BlackBrenny

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    I think this is BS with respect IB, if you actually watch that fight, McGirts advice was spot on "Paulie, stop throwing the uppercut, he's coming over the top with the right hand" *Paulie throws an uppecut and gets wobbled badly by Hattons overhand right*


    "Paulie, double the jab and throw that right hand, stop holding on to him"

    *Paul goes out, throws single jabs, and grabs hold of Hatton for dear life every time Hatton gets close*


    The fact is, Hatton was just better than Paulie, Paul can make all the ecuses he wants for that terrible performance, but I didn't see a thing wrong with what McGirt was telling him

    The most ironic thing about this fight of course, being Paulie calling Hatton a "glorified club fighter" because he held too much lol, leading to the HBO team making fun of how often Malignaggi was grabbing onto Hatton like a long lost brother every 2 seconds
     
  9. big_AL

    big_AL P4P #1 Full Member

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    i don't think it's all mcgirts fault but as i said in my post and Ib alluded to was that the current malignaggi has been probably the best he's been in his career and would be a tougher test for all of his opponents pre khan
     
  10. BlackBrenny

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    The thing is though, Hatton outjabbed Paulie from range, he didn't maul Paulie, Paulie was the one holding on the whole time (after spending the entire leadup to the fight saying he wanted a referee who wouldn't let Hatton hold :lol: even Jim Lampley was commenting on the hypocrisy)
     
  11. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Malignaggi's chin holds up against Malignaggi's power.
     
  12. BlackBrenny

    BlackBrenny Guest

    You also re-stated the myth (and it is a myth) that Paulie with power would be P4P material, tell me how power would ever have helped him in his performances vs Hatton or Khan? I think he landed about 2 right hands on both in each fight



    I like Paulie, but for gods sake, the guy gets more excuses made for him than any fighter of all time IMO, he is a good fighter, with good talent and ring IQ, but that's it. No amount of power ever makes him p4p material
     
  13. BlackBrenny

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    yeah thats a strange one from IB actually, Hatton couldn't knock 08 Paulie out, but 013 Paulie would?
     
  14. mick557

    mick557 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Think Paulie's toughness is often overlooked as one of his better qualities.
     
  15. BlackBrenny

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    Of course, I suppose it's worth mentioning that Hatton and Khan had much superior amateur careers than Paul too