Hatton v Tszyu

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by zfc, May 31, 2009.


  1. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    When I was at the fight I might have agreed with you about Tsyzu been a point up... I was shitting it going to the cards... When I have watcehd it back I think that Hatton got more shots off but Tsyzu was conservative with is punches and really old manned Hatton for a lot of the fight...

    I think that Hatton when he came up against anything that was really World Class he came up short on both occasion PBF and Pac Man...

    Although he should never have fought PBF at 147.. and I think that PBF would have beat him at 140 as well. The timeliness of his fight with Tsyzu was about right.. taking nothin away from him... Tyszu was past his best,, not the same man that tamed Judah so easily IMO

    I also think that if Hatton would have boxed Witter back in the day he would have got beaten... Witter was the banana skin they would not go near with a barge pole... They rolled the dice with Magee too, but it was about time that they had to start lifting the bar...What about the Thaxton fight??... if Hatton had not been a FW fighter do you think that the fight might have been stopped if it was anyone else.??... 3 real hotspots for me

    Ricky Hatton has done exceptionally well and I have had some great nights out watching him so I cannot complain one bit... :good
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Hatton got caught low at least 3 times, saw his arse that Parris didn't pull Zoo up for it and took matters into his own hands. Not Marquess of Queensberry, granted but.....

    We'll have to agree to disagree on the scoring but you don't hear many people saying Zoo was ahead at the time of stoppage and Zoo obviously felt he was behind or else he would have tried to stick the last round out.
     
  3. NO MAS

    NO MAS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  4. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    No mas,

    Fair comment on the Mayweather fight and Witter is obviously a matter of opinion but to call the Thaxton win into question is just going down the patented "Frank Warren consipracy theory" road so loved by Brit internet boxing fans and just puts needless doubt on a very well executed win for a young Hatton. The Magee fight wasn't particulary close either after the initial knockdown but def. showed that Hatton didn't like southies or counterpunchers!!!!
     
  5. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    You can give a strong arguement who was the worse ref in either Tszyu-Hatton & Mayweather-Hatton. Claiming one result was down to the ref & the other due to one guy being the better fighter should always be ridiculed accordingly.
     
  6. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    FWIW I don't think the ref altered the result in either fight.
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    I agree that the ref did not alter the fight results in either case. Tyzu proved he was the better boxer in the fight with Hatton however ultimately he lost because he was not able to make the adjustments necessary to deal with Hatton's crude tactics which were effective on the night.
     
  8. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    Let's be honest it was one of the dirtiest performances in a long time. I havn't seen anything to match that on a consistent basis since. It was literally 11 rounds of holding arms, low blows and rabbit punching.

    Even if we had a slightly more proactive ref in the fight, not even as strict as I'd have liked, it would have been interesting to see how that played out because it was a matter of a few points even with the refereeing being favourable towards Hatton's style of fight.
     
  9. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    People forget that Tszyu hadn't been in a competetive fight for years before that night in Manchester. Hatton was at the top of his game and was allowed to "work" on the inside tiring the old man out. Hatton did what he had to do. He couldn't beat Tszyu any other way than in the way it happened. At that point in time, it was how it was. Boxers have been allowed to get away with similar sorts of things before and will continue to in the future. It certainly had an impact on the style of the fight and made it hard work for the older man. I don't know if Hatton would have lost if Parris (or equivilent) wasn't in the ring that night but Tszyu wasn't good enough to flatten Hatton given what happened.

    Mayweather had Hatton in his pocket all night long and toyed with him. The refereeing in that fight is irrelevent... Hatton would have been stopped if he was given a 121 point headstart.
     
  10. Charles187

    Charles187 Active Member Full Member

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    Wow this fight has been over analysed over the years! Just out of interest (not a loaded question at all) has Tszyu ever made comment on the ref or the result or Hattons tactics? I know he excepted the defeat with grace on the night, just have never heard him talk much about it after.
     
  11. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    Nah, theres never been any excuses or complaints from Zoo about that fight, he obviously realizes what pro boxing is about and accepts he lost his title in a tough fight. He was also pretty damn "competitive" only 6 months before the Hatton fight when he KTFO Sharmba Mitchell (who I believe was his number 1 contender at the time).
     
  12. widdy

    widdy lancs,where real men live Full Member

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    nope,i dont remember him complaining to anyone,he was a dirty ******* in this fight as well,boxings a hard buissiness,and whoever thinks otherwise need to go back to watching that WWF pantomime.:nut

    some of these people on here spoil there boxing knowledge by the downright hating on hatton,:huhwho is regarded by boxers,pundits,and people in the knowhow to be one of the best to come out of our country:happy
     
  13. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Indeed. Just logged on for the first time in a few days (Im in Frankfurt on holiday at the mo). I was hoping to read some informed discussion on the weekend and upcoming fights. What do I get? The same old boring, cueless idiotsbanging on about the same issues. If you don't like Ricky Hatton or if you didn't like the refereeing in the Tszyu fight then fine. However, the fight was four years ago now. Posting new threads dedicated do trying to do the performance down is just flipping weird, the behaviour of a psychotic weirdo. Which I know, unfortunately, this forum has its share of.
     
  14. mrbassie

    mrbassie Boxing Addict Full Member

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    this isn't the general forum, we shouldn't have to resort to moronic catchphrases like 'hater'. Hatton's a nice guy, why would anyone hate him? most of us have never even met him.
    The flipside to your comment is that the forum is full of guys who think he's above any form of criticism whatsoever.
     
  15. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nonsense, I'd say there are none of those.

    There's plenty who are very, very unbalanced the other way though.

    And as to the hate... read the posts, it's not a strong term at all given what gets said, it's perfectly justified in plenty of cases.