Hatton V Witter - - - Battle of the Shot Fighters - - - - - - - -The Swan Song

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  1. sitiyzal

    sitiyzal ................. Full Member

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    Anyone dumb enough to actually debate with Flint fully deserves to be wound up.
     
  2. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    Forget all the **** that a number of you have been writing...this is the truth^^^^
     
  3. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Hatton by KO or TKO.
     
  4. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You didn't even mention Sosa, Castillo, or Torres ?

    Was Torres top ten? Was Ndou? Marginal at best. And Cotto fought Judah at 147 much later I think


    I can't argue with someone as scatterbrained as you matey, I don;t even know what your point is


    Whichever way you slice it, the best of the crop were Tszyu and Floyd and Hatton fought both
     
  5. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is a lie. Hatton did not become top 5 until he beat Tszyu (and then he went straight to #1). During his run as a top 5 fighter, he beat Tszyu (#1), Maussa (top 10), Urango (top 10), Castillo (#1), Collazo (top 10 welter)Lazcano (top 10) and Malignaggi (#1) that is a pretty good run by anyone's standards. It's easy just to pick out the fighters he didn't fight.

    Tackie, Tszyu, Maussa were all in 03-05. That's three right there. Including the p4p #3. Plus he went on to fight 5-6 more. If you knew as much as you claim then you'd know that far from "gifting" him the fight, Warren did not want to make it - Hatton had to force his hand by threatening to leave if the fight was not made.

    Let's look at how many top ten ranked fighters any of these guys fought in the 03-05 period?

    Hatton - 3 (Tszyu, Tackie, Maussa)
    Harris - 2 (Hurtado, Urkal)
    Witter - 0 (Ok, I suppose you could include Ndou so let's make that 1)
    Mitchell - 2 (Tackie, Ndou, Tszyu)
    Ndou - 3 (Witter, Cotto, Mitchell)
    Cotto - 3 (Corley, Ndou, Maussa)
    Ward - 1 (Gatti - to be fair he retired after this trilogy)
    Gatti - 3 (Mayweather, Leija, Ward)
    Leija - 3 (Gatti, Tszyu, Ward)

    Doesn't seem like Hatton's any different to most others in there, and he was still a prospect.

    It's very easy to make someone look bad when you deliberately edit the list of top 10 fighters to leave out the ones they fought and beat plus lie about when they became top 5 rated. However, at the end of the day we can do this with any fighter it's not difficult!
     
  6. djoc175

    djoc175 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Typically subtle with his choice of excuse

    [YT]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LilRvt1lzEg&feature=channel_page[/YT]
     
  7. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Just goes to show that their is hope in this world of ours. Look forward to other points of agreement.
     
  8. icemax

    icemax Indian Red Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
  9. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    **** it seems you have me beat again :lol::lol::lol: :patsch
     
  10. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    [quote="TKO";4630390]This is a lie. Hatton did not become top 5 until he beat Tszyu (and then he went straight to #1). During his run as a top 5 fighter, he beat Tszyu (#1), Maussa (top 10), Urango (top 10), Castillo (#1), Collazo (top 10 welter)Lazcano (top 10) and Malignaggi (#1) that is a pretty good run by anyone's standards. It's easy just to pick out the fighters he didn't fight.

    Tackie, Tszyu, Maussa were all in 03-05. That's three right there. Including the p4p #3. Plus he went on to fight 5-6 more. If you knew as much as you claim then you'd know that far from "gifting" him the fight, Warren did not want to make it - Hatton had to force his hand by threatening to leave if the fight was not made.

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    Actually mate thats where your wrong.

    Hatton was #5 ranked in 2002 and dropped one to #6 in 2003. So like I said he was THERE OR THEREABOUTS for that period.

    Yes sorry he beat Maussa in 2005 but the point is I was saying Warren protected him and then got him a shot at a weak champ who'd fought 2 times in 2 years previously with the last one being 8months previous. Tackie was not top ten in 2003/2005 at all. he was #9 in 2002 but dropped out
     
  11. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I meant in your first post, you absolute ****ing simpleton

    Dan, you have a corrosive mix of stupidity and misguided self assurance
     
  12. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Trotter, spot on pal....... BOTH :good
     
  13. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I stopped reading (and considering a serious response) at this point. No offence fella but it is imposible to take you seriously when you come out with comments such as this. Maybe a bit of thinking before you type wouldn't go amiss next time hey?
     
  14. Dan684

    Dan684 Dave's Stepdad Full Member

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    Fair enough by that I didn't mean his was weak I meant just that it was a perfect time to beat him, with him being so inactive thats all
     
  15. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Witter fights like he did Saturday night Hatton has a chance.