Hatton winding down his career

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by Betty Swollocks, May 3, 2008.


  1. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    Which, for the third I've said, was a very serious comment. :roll:
     
  2. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Of course it was - it suited your agenda to state that so you did. Its only when its been proven to be alot of bull**** that you suddenly backtrack and state you were being sarcastic.

    Fact is that statement is consistent with the rest of your post - it doesn't appear to be a joke at all.
     
  3. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    Anybody with a brain go back and read what I said, it was clearly a joke. Plus, there is no backtracking, I told the guy I was talking to I didn't mean it seriously in my next post.

    Enough of this sh*t,
    I'm a boxing fan, my posts are about boxing. Yours are just trying to dissect what I say.

    I don't think Junior Witter has done enough to make a fight with Hatton a 100% must fight. That's my opinion. If it happens, great. If he fight Malignaggi, great. If he never fights Witter, oh well, he's fought better guys already.
     
  4. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You asserted early on that there was no proof that Hatton ducked Mayweather at 140 and you wouldn't believe until you saw it...Marvellous presented it and you quickly revised and spun what you said to suit your shitty agenda :yep

    Accept it bucko - Hatton fought Mayweather credit where its due as I have actually said all along. But he did it with a safety net as others including myself have pointed out, something which you denied at first but quickly changed when you realised you were cornered.

    Your an awful boxing fan, simply awful. You contradict yourself day in day out and you know what? The way you attack Calzaghe(nonsensical) I could easily do that to Miguel Cotto on the basis of his competition :yep

    And if you were a true BRITISH boxing fan you would join the rest of us in demanding the Witter fight! He has earnt his shot at the man - more than Ricky Hatton had when he became mandatory to Zoo. In case you didn't notice, Hatton doesn't have any belts and thus any mandatories attached to him - hes free to pick who he wants to fight. The only way Witter could get to him by Hattons admission was to get a World Title which is what he did. Hatton has loved picking up titles in the past and big time wanted Maussa to unify so why not Witter?

    The trash talking excuse is bull. Hatton fears losing to Witter and with it his status as number 1 at 140 and even the best British fighter at that weight - will his 'loyal' Man City supporter fans turn out in their droves to see him if Witter beats him? Will they ****. Being yesterdays man in boxing damages anyone even if their a ****ing legend - Hatton doesn't want the paydays to end.

    Your no boxing fan, Hatton nuthugger.
     
  5. TAM83

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    Sleazenation,GazOC it's the new fad just now to hate Hatton. A few well known posters started it and now it's the cool thing to do.

    They can go on about how **** Hatton is, how they hate him and how overrated he is. Bottom line? it's the cool thing to do at the moment.

    For people that have no time for him they seem to spend every minute of their time on these forums discussing him, sorry but when I feel so strongly about a boxer it doesn't get my attention 24/7 to post about him.

    If I want to support Hatton I'll support him, if it makes me one of the minority on here then so be it.
     
  6. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    I said I wanted proof when fluxstuff was claiming Hatton wanted time to face other fighters with similar styles to Mayweather to prepare for a fight :roll: Just read what I said and shut up.

    I am a true BRITISH BOXING fan which is why I respect Hatton for taking the biggest fight in the world by facing on the #1 p4p in the sport. It gets no bigger than that. And I'm not going to "demand" he fights a guy who has done NOTHING in comparison.

    I'm not a Hatton nuthugger, I bet on him to lose against Mayweather, guess why? I know boxing and I don't let bias get in the way. Which is why I can see the difference between a big fight and just another fight, unlike you.
     
  7. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bull****. You refuse to give credit to other guys who have also fought big fights and **** on their achievements. I on the other hand recognise Hatton's (I give him mad credit for Zoo and Castillo unlike some) but also see the bigger picture and take into consideration other factors - I don't blindly hug his balls for taking on Mayweather as if it's some super brave, legacy damaging act: it has been proven definitvely that this wasn't the case.

    Im the boxing fan - your a fan of certain boxers.
     
  8. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    Your wrong, going back about 7 years British boxing was pretty ****, all I wanted was to see a Brit fight the best in the world.

    Calzaghe-Jones
    Witter-Tsyzu
    Hatton-Tsyzu
    Witter-Mayweather
    Hatton-Mayweather

    Opponents who were p4p the best guys in the world, I was dying to see a fight like that. In 2001 I was no more a Hatton fan than a Witter fan, and I still like them both as much as I did then. But were it not for Hatton I would, to this day, not have seen one of our top fighters against the best in the world. Hence, my respect for Hatton is more than Witter. If Witter had fought Tsyzu and Mayweather, believe me, Witter wouldn't NEED to fight Hatton to prove anything, imo.
     
  9. Beatboxer

    Beatboxer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Right, im off out. Ive proven my point throughout this thread with you has have others and im not getting sucked back into this debate. That Hatton gained his status and his fanbase even before the fight with Zoo is no different to how Witter gained his status as the top challenger.

    There is a difference however outside of the ring. The way they were marketed. Hatton oh so marketable with that Man City thing, Soccer AM, etc etc he was ALWAYS more likely to have the financial clout to attact a Kostya Zoo who wasn't going to fight Hatton and preferred other bouts but was enticed in by the huge payday. Again, credit to Hatton for taking him on but he was in a more able position than say Witter to get this fight due to his marketability: his competition prior to Zoo wasn't great as most know.

    Witter the poor soul isn't as marketable ala Marquez in America. He needs someone to give him that shot, that chance to become more marketable. Hatton ought to both for legacy and for the fans. Simple as that.
     
  10. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    That's life. I can only judge fighters on who they fight. I'm a boxing fan, not Witter's mummy. :|
     
  11. Marvellous1

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    SleazeNation, I'm very sure you stated that you didn't believe Hatton turned down a bout with Mayweather previously and wouldn't believe it without proof. The statement about "Mayweather-like" fighters was afterwards. I just gave you the proof you were looking for that Hatton did indeed turn down the fight with Mayweather. I hope now you believe it because Hatton himself admited it. Also, bxing fans judge fighters on who they don't fight as well as who they do fight.

    Gaz, I'm not sure what your statement means but I was just making a point of fact. Mayweather has in the past been accused of breezing through the 140lbs division and avoiding the number 1 fighter. In light of the link, that notion isn't true. I can only talk about what is true and what isn't true. Picking sides isn't an issue for me. I haven't expressed any hate or undying loyalty for any one boxer, just talked about what I think is wrong about this situation. If you can spot any lies or exaggerations, I'll be happy to address them. I'm not following some new, cool trend just expressing my opinion on what certain fighters have said and done.
     
  12. SleazeNation

    SleazeNation Coal Black Horse Full Member

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    I didn't say that. But if you're "very sure" I did - then a quote will help you out.
    And as I also said, your link prooves EXACTLY what I claimed, nothing else.
     
  13. GazOC

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    Theres nothing wrong with this "situation", Hattons schedule is mapped out as fighting his number one contender at 140 (JLC), the number one at 147 (Mayweather), a soft fight then his number 2 contender at 140 (Pauli). I'm sorry Witter isn't on that list but its hardly the crime of the century as far as career paths go, is it?
     
  14. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    not a crime, but years of ducking a guy you sneer at with a load of lame excuses and not living up to what you sell yourself as....well it's no wonder educated boxing fans see the whole thing as a sham and the Hatton's are to blame. I've been saying for years that he's a conman.
     
  15. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    not a crime, but years of ducking a guy you sneer at with a load of lame excuses and not living up to what you sell yourself as....well it's no wonder educated boxing fans see the whole thing as a sham and the Hatton's are to blame. I've been saying for years that he's a conman.