Hatton winding down his career

Yeah, I'm pretty sure there are a few thousand Yanks coming over to the Nottingham Arena this weekend to watch the great man himself.
:rofl
You are deluded.

 

Maybe thats because a Malignaggi fight IS happening...ever thought of that?atsch

 

The Yanks love Witter, that's why Witter-Bradley's on HBO PPV. :deal

 

I don't claim to have any knowledge of the crowd numbers for the Ngoudjo fight, although the reports that I get on a google search describe it as 'sold out' and standing room only.

But I do know that the Witter fight you're referencing was on the undercard of another Froch bill in Nottingham, so fairly laughable if you're claiming that as evidence of Witter's drawing ability.

 

pne, Hatton is definitely the favourite against Witter, but Witter poses more danger than the rest. Paulie can frustrate but can't bang. Torres can bang but is a little chinny himself and is pretty straight forward. Kotelnik is comapct but one dimensional and can be outworked.

Witter presents the problem of being able to frustrate Hatton but could possibly hurt him too. The problem, pne, is not the fact that Hatton might be on a different and somewhat easier path back to Mayweather (Lazcano/Malignaggi), it's the reasons he has given for not facing Witter. They have ranged from petty to downright ridiculous from someone who professes to be a fan of Duran and Hagler and calls himself a "Manchester Mexican". Hatton has made himself rich and popular by selling an image of the regular guy that will fight anyone. When he starts talking about "paydays" and sidesteps opponents for easier ones (Let's not kid ourselves, Paulie is an easier prospect than Witter), people have the right to call him on not living up to the image he's selling.

 

Cobbler, I know that Witter has low drawing ability and wouldn't try to claim otherwise. I was just trying to put perspective on how popular Paulie is, or isn't. Paulie being American is a pretty frivolous reason for him to deserve a shot at Hatton more than anyone else though.

 

One last thing. To understand the attitude I'd have preferred to see from Hatton:

David Haye: I'm the best cruiserweight in the world. I took on the number one, knocked him out and my resume isn't too bad either.

Enzo Maccarinelli: Er, no I think I'm the best and I'd knock you out. I haven't got the best resume, but I'm a big puncher and you're chinny.

David Haye: OK, get your gloves on and lets see "Big Mac" (and fries with a shake [of your man boobs] to go with it)!

Result, Haye gets and emphatic stoppage win to take with him to heavyweight leaving no doubt who the man was.

It's a shame that someone as relatively green as Haye is showing how a champion reacts to a challenge. I agree that challengers have to earn the opportunity but a champion also has to reinforce their dominance, not just sit easy when they get tot the top. Mayweather answered Hatton's challenge and Hatton should now do the same to Witter. Saying "I'm better than you because me and my legions fans say so" isn't enough. Hatton may have one eye on a Mayweather rematch, but going through Witter to it rather than around Witter would go some way to convincing people he has even a shred of a chance of winning (along with maybe taking on a decent welter).

 

Well, I'd like it if all boxers had David Haye's attitude, as a general principle, but that's at best a misrepresentation of how things went down and the Maccarinelli fight is the least persuasive one of his to use as an example.

Haye said he was moving to heavyweight after beating Mormeck which made him number one in the division and accomplished his goals for the division.

Frank Warren put a sufficient sum of money on the table to persuade Haye to take one more fight at CW that he didn't see as a particularly dangerous. Maccarinelli had some name recognition that could get Haye noticed by a wider audience.

If it was about responding to a challenge, then why did Haye not fight Steve Cunningham instead, who arguably had a stronger case than Maccarinelli? If Maccarinelli had exactly the same career record, but was a low-profile guy from Phillaidelphia, the fight would not have happened. If he had exactly the same career record but was a low profile guy from Sheffield with no money behind him, the fight would not have happened.

Your example is dangerously close to proving the opposite point than the one you intended it to.

 

My point is, Haye didn't need to take the risk as he was already at number one. Also, this fight nearly happened BEFORE Haye was number one and still had his shot at Mormeck at stake. The fight never happened only because of Frank Warren's "options" garbage. Haye was ready to put it on the line and hasn't shown any signs to me about being "all about the money". He was ready to put it on the line against Maccarinelli even though making the weight was killing him. He still did when he had even more to lose when everyone would've understood if he had poked his tongue out and moved on.

I don't remember Steve Cunningham ever making noise about wanting to fight Haye. If he did and there's of Haye ducking it, it'll be news to me. So what you're saying, cobblers, is that Witter being a low profile world champion from Sheffield makes him and unfanciable option. Ok, cool. What made the low profile fighters from Columbia (Maussa and Urango) viable and attracive options? They were relatively unknown and couldn't draw flies to sh*t but somehow they managed to share a ring with Ricky Hatton. The mind boggles.

 

He did so after the Maccarinelli fight. Check out Big Reg's posting history, about 60% of it consists of him whingeing about it.

You can't see why those fights were made, what they had to offer Hatton? Maussa was Hatton's first fight after Tszyu (and first promotion after leaving Frank Warren) and was a unification bout. Hatton, at that point, had no need of a name opponent to boost his own profile, which was the main reason Haye identified for making the fight with Maccarinelli. Urango was his first Vegas fight sharing the bill with Castillo to promote a future fight between the two.

Haye didn't see it as much of a risk, so the risk-reward equation was very much in his favour. Adam Booth told him that it would be his easiest ever fight, and Haye's pre-fight analysis was bourne out when it happened. He saw it as a low risk fight that would give him a boost in profile as a reward and a nice purse as a sweetener to boot. He was right.

 

If you were a professional boxer and you had the choice to rematch the P4P#1, take on the P4P#2 moving up the weights, headline MSG against Malignaggi

OR

Take on the an awkward, boring fighter with no fans, a **** resume, no reputation and no prestige....

Which would you do? :yep

 

Yes your right. Hennesy guided him to being a triple domestic champ and now a world champ aswell as the number 2 in the world. I guess Warrens promotional skills shouldnt be called into question as Ricky opted to leave him too.

Your points are revisionist history and not important as to Witters legitimacy as the number 2 bearing in mind HOW he was promoted.