Hatton

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  1. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    bradley? don't be foolish :patsch
     
  2. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    Collazo beat him
    And I would pick Torres, Holt, and Bradley to KO him
     
  3. smiffy

    smiffy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    another " collazo beat him " mug .

    3 judges, sky and hbo's experts and the record books state different my friend.

    if you don't accept that then excuse me if i doubt your other " predictions ".
     
  4. El Cepillo

    El Cepillo Baddest Man on the Planet Full Member

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    Nope. :think it was a close fight but Hatton was the clear winner.
     
  5. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    :deal

    I will watch the fight again tonight and score it for you - on the night I had it 115-112 to Hatton, but having watched it again I went for 114-112, the only difference being the last round 10-8 in favour of Collazo rather than 10-9.

    None of Bradley, Torres and Holt are fit to lace Hatton's boots. What have they done that suggest they could get the KO?
     
  6. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    these are merely my opinions and predictions....they are also the opinions and predictions of many.
    I had Collazo winning by 2 points, it was a close fight and was scored the other way which was understandable
     
  7. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    I think the way fights are being scored these days means that there was only one winner, and that was Ricky Hatton.

    By that, I mean that aggression is counting for something - you could compare this to say, Hagler vs Leonard and draw your own conclusions - ok the fights are of a differing nature, but Hagler (the aggressor) lost whilst Hatton got the nod.

    In Hatton vs Collazo, both landed a similar amount of punches, both in number and % - but more power punches came from Hatton clearly (ignoring compubox) whilst Collazo jabbed more.

    Throw in the KD and the constant pressure applied in 2 & 3 (not forgetting 11 which was key) and you edge toward Hatton.

    I won't criticise anyone for picking Collazo, as long as they substantiate their argument with fact and opinion, rather than simply calling Hatton a fat, dirty *******.
     
  8. Ramón

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    I like Hatton a lot, he's a real fighter, but Colazzo beat him. I had the fight a draw or Collazo up by one coming into the last round.

    Collazo clearly won the last round so the final score is Collazo up by 1 or 2 points.

    No way did Hatton win that fight.
     
  9. smiffy

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    like i say, the history books say different. i don't remember collazo kicking up a huge stink either.
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    He wanted a rematch - however......

    It is well known that Hatton took the fight whilst he was half way through a training camp for Juan Lazcano, and thus was near 140.

    Rumour has it that he indulged in the odd takeaway as the weight making was much easier - and also the huge fry up on the morning of the fight ensured he got in the ring at 160 rather than his usual 152.

    This would partially explain his lack of speed, snap and head movement.

    Had the rematch taken place in Manchester I feel Hatton with proper preparation would UD Collazo again, maybe 116-112.
     
  11. "TKO"

    "TKO" Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If it was in the US I'd say Bradley or Holt might have a chance as they're allowed to headbutt opponents over there, but on any neutral territory Hatton would pound Holt all over the ring,Bradley would maybe be more difficult style wise.
     
  12. RealIzm

    RealIzm Boxing Junkie banned

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    well it was a close fight...Collazo had a clear advantage with clean, effective punching hence my score of 115-113 Collazo....no need to debate here these are nothing more than our opinions...what is going to happen however is Collazo will soon be WBC champ, he's also Margos mando I believe and that too would make an excellent fight....Luis Collazo is the most underrated fighter period
     
  13. ron u.k.

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    my word suddenly bradley,torres, and holt are monsters to be avoided like the plague.am i missing something here?
     
  14. RealIzm

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    What about Torres? I think its widely believed that Torres is the more powerful puncher here
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

    Beeston Brawler Comical Ali-egedly Full Member

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    Lets see........

    Tim Bradley is a good little fighter but doesn't have all that much power, and doesn't offer anything out of the ordinary. For me, to beat Ricky Hatton you need something special - i.e. defence, power, combos. Bradley is a straight forward fighter who worked to a plan against Witter and got the W he deserved. But..... can he take body shots?

    Hatton clear UD or mid rounds KO

    Torres is a banger, and nearly beat Cotto at 140 by stoppage. However, Cotto and Hatton at 140 are seriously different animals stylewise, to me Torres can be outboxed plain and simple. Urango was outboxed by Hatton (complete with chest infection) I see something similar here.

    Hatton wide UD - staying out of trouble.

    Holt is a decent fighter, but that is all. Offers something in all departments but lacks a granite chin. Hatton may not be the biggest puncher by any means, but is cumulative and will wear Holt down.

    Hatton late TKO.