Hattons' flaws and wide punches.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Robbi, Dec 7, 2007.


  1. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    He doesn't punch straight on a regular basis. And all his punches come from below. Example: he throws body punches which are low and thrown from the waist. He brings the punches from underneath, then finishing to the head. And someone who can fire punches straight down the pipe like Mayweather will exploit openings up the middle in Hatton's defense. No question about it in my mind.

    Hatton's enthausiasm and over-eagerness will not allow him to focus on defense the way him and his camp would like before the first bell rings. I can mind watching his fight with Tszyu. When the bell started for the start of each round, him and Tszyu met in the middle of the ring and he was caught with an overhand right every single time. This happened at the start of around 3 or 4 rounds. It was like this. Ding ding!! off his stool, rush towards Tszyu, bang, nailed with an overhand right. Thats sloppy defense, especially as it happened consecutively over a number of rounds.

    I heard Teddy Atlas talk about the body belt Hatton's trainer, Billy Graham uses. Two hand pads and the massive belt. Atlas said something interesting. The belt sticks out and obviously its entirely different from hitting a normal fighter. Hatton launches his punches (winds them up) from too far back as the belt sticks out. And when Hatton works the belt and pads on Grahams hands, no punches are straight as I said at the start of my post. Everything comes from underneath. Its all hooks and hook/uppercuts.
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    his strategy relies on using his lateral movement to create angles, and his explosiveness to close the distance before his opponent can land anything significant
     
  3. joe33

    joe33 Guest

    That belt does look a bit on the large side,kind of like hes been training to fight a butterbean size guy,could well be right about that
     
  4. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Yeah, I know that. He's still open up the middle.
     
  5. Betty Swollocks

    Betty Swollocks James 'Lights Out' Toney Full Member

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    he's been beffudled by slick, versatile boxers on a much lower level than Mayweather..........he will be hurt, stung and brokes down by punches he doesn't see coming.
     
  6. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Mayweather's left hook and straight right hand. Those are the tools.
     
  7. icebergisonfire

    icebergisonfire Floyd F*ckin Mayweather! Full Member

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    During the chat with ESPn, Teddy Atlas said this

    Tyler, SLC, UT: If hatton loses, do you think it will be because of those wide punches?

    Teddy Atlas: I think that will be the main factor. I think he starts his punches from a little too far away. I think one of the main reasons is, if you watch 24/7 on HBO with his trainer, who does a good job with him, he makes mistakes, That doesn't mean that he doesn't get away with it, but he makes mistakes. You see that body armor on 24/7, other trainers wear body armor, but not the same size as the one on 24/7, it sticks out almost 2 feet. I think that might hurt him. When you're training with that apparatus, you're starting your punches further out than with a normal human being. That creates a habit. When you start those punches from too far away, your opponent can take advantage of. I think it will be there all night long for Floyd to take advantage of. He can take advantage of the punches from too far away that Hatton throws.
     
  8. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Excellent post but try telling this to overzelous Hatton fans who don't have know clue as to how to breakdown a fight. No way a guy that is wide open with no jab no guard and head movement who is squared up most of the time beats an elite slick defensive counter-puncher, its a stylistic mismatch.:deal:lol:
     
  9. pit

    pit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    yeah I could see how that would work , but floyd is anything but slow on his feet and angle are his specialty . long jab and quick straights is his weapons of choice at long range , once he feel he has you, then he moves in and start mopping up with hooks and upper cuts..
     
  10. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Well. Hatton feints pretty well, and he does have a bit head movement. But he's defensively nothing like Roberto Duran.

    Want to know something. The most non-talked about weapon in this entire fight, Hatton's jab. I have had this in my mind for months. He needs to use the jab often while backing up Mayweather. IMO, Mayweather doesn't defend jabs too well. De La Hoya's jab was his main weapon over the first 7-8 rounds. Mayweather pulled back in a straight line and was caught with it often it must be said.

    When Hatton's on the outside, and advancing on Mayweather, the jab is the key. He needs to keep Mayeather occuppied with the most basic tool in boxing when closing the range. Not used as a point scoring jab, thus becoming a boxer at long range like the Mayweathe uses it. But rather using it as he looks to get inside, and let his hooks/uppercuts flow off it. He can't be predicatble and load up without the jab.

    I would actually go as far to say, Hatton's jab may well be the most important weapon in his arsenal to be successful against Mayweather.

    I prefer Mayweather's style more than Hatton's, but my views and predictions are done with the head, not the heart.
     
  11. Beebs

    Beebs Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    And Floyds mit and pad work is so lifelike and realistic?
     
  12. FRKO

    FRKO "A MAN" Full Member

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    No ****ing chance. This fight is already won by Hatton.
     
  13. icebergisonfire

    icebergisonfire Floyd F*ckin Mayweather! Full Member

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    Good observation, but Oscar and Floyd has the same reach and being that he is three inches taller than Floyd, they are going down, giving Oscar an advantage. A 7 inch reach advantage is what Floyd has on Ricky. I don't think Ricky will get to use it that much.
     
  14. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Good post but one problem Hatton's jab is almost non-existent and he can't beat PBF without one because he will need it to work his way inside much like JLC did who had a gret jab and was effective.
     
  15. Robbi

    Robbi Marvelous Full Member

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    Hatton used the jab effectively against Tackie. The jab is there, but not used enough as its not really a tool he employs often. I'm simply saying he can use it often against Mayweather, and he need to IMO.