Hattons trainer confirmed - I think its a mistake

I just don't rate pads.

Each to their own :good

Plus, most opponents don't have two heads.....

 

I have just reported this post and thread, for being completely ****.

Although i do agree that Bob Shannon is a mistake, because i prefer Billy Graham.

Everything you have said is mostly ******ed.

"If Hatton looks shocking in his return, it is because he has totally abused his body throughout the years and during his retirement"...........

 

Ok so what about particular techniques, i.e. a particular drill specific to an opponent, or perfecting a weak point, coordination ............. its a pretty sizeable list why pads are good for a fighter

There also good for pushing your cardio if there done in the right way, personally i feel there under used, but that depends on who's coaching you !

 

Correct :good

 

Head movement you can use the spiders web, which is string across the ring so like a cross and sometimes the problem is fighters rattle off loads of combinations on the pads that won't happen in a fight.

I did pads with a ex pro, lovely guy. But he never once offered me a bodyshot. The guy on pads needs to move and make it into a fight type scenario many just hold up pads etc.

The floor to ceiling ball is fantastic to use, punch technique can be ironed out without pads such as shadows and bag work.

The old school days pads wasn't used so much, I think pads have there place and can be used but i think sometimes fighters do more rounds of pads then anything else. There has to be a balance.

Pads,Heavybag,Shadow,Floor to ceiling and conditioned sparring plus a few other things added in.

Lamont Peterson never used a speedbag once before his camp for Bradley then he had one fitted. I always feel fighters develop and train in different ways..

 

Yep thats a pretty solid analysis :good

 

:good Thanks Win.

 

I disagree with you're criticism of Billy Graham techniques.

But seriously, i reported the post/thread mate.

 

To be honest I'd not use pads at all, or rather, I'd have an assistant doing them whilst I watched.

The top 2 fighters in the world seldom use them.

Rog and Floyd use them for the cameras, and Nacho uses an assistant to have a look at how JMM is going. Hardly a necessity.

To me, if you're trying to coach someone, you need to be watching them at work, not joining in.

The fighter might be punching hard or accurate, but they might have their feet in the wrong position or be dropping their guard because they know they ain't getting hit back.

That's why I agree with Hatton's view that the training regime should be as close to a fight as possible - which in his case meant that he was on his trainer's chest whacking away as much as possible, then wrestling for position.

 

If you cannot coach from behind a set of pads as a coach you need to wrap up and go home

In an ideal world you need eyes on your man at all times (coaching) but British gyms dont have 3 or 4 assistants to a head coach do they ?

To erase pads from your programme all together isnt wise it ?

 

Praise where its due m8

 

Of course you can coach behind a set of pads.

You could just coach better standing and observing, either someone else doing the pads or your man on the bag.

There's a million vids of Marquez training on YT... none of them consist of him and Nacho on the mitts, there's some other clown doing that ****.

Like I said, a human being has one head, a pair of pads has two

 

pads of done well are great but too many coaches are **** with them

for me padwork must involve the following principles
pads held close together
no longer than 3 maybe 4 punch combos anymore is unrealistic
the pad should be braced for impact, not slapped towards the fist
the pad holder should move like he is boxing
the pad holder should throw punches between combos forcing the fighter to slip or block
the foghter should use footwork or head movement between combos to change the angles
the pad holder should move backwards so the fighter has to use footwork to land his punches
feints should be trained into combos, not just 1-2, 1-2-3 which many trainers use
pad holder should have a body belt on so the fioghtrer can finish a combo with a body shot if he wants. the pad holder doesnt need to move his hands which is often too slow and unrealistic