Hauser strikes back again!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by rathalos, Oct 14, 2015.


  1. JediPimp007

    JediPimp007 Long suffering reader Full Member

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    Whatever you think, there is MORE than enough there to warrant a full investigation.

    Low TE, 750mg saline IV's, no CIR testing etc etc... it's all very shady. The IV in itself is actually banned whether you accept that or not, that in itself is cheating whatever way you try and swing it.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Just ask the Flo-Emos who are now rushing to Floyd's defence and demanding proof of his guilt to produce some posts of theirs where they did the same when their fellow Flo-Emos were absolutely crucifying, I repeat absolutely crucifying Pacquiao for being a PED cheat. Did they rush to his defense and take issue with those who convicted Pacquaio of cheating without any proof or were they also part of the frenzied rabble huring rocks at him?

    And if the answer to that is the later, ask them if they are fans of actual PED cheats like Roid, Toney, Shane etc.

    And if they are, then ask them to produce some posts they've written crucifying them and trying to discredit their achievments for being actual PED cheats. Posts from threads comparing said cheats to Floyd don't count, btw.

    These type of threads

    Shane vs Chavez Sr, Tszyu

    Roy Jones vs Golovkin, Calzaghe, Dariusz etc

    Toney vs any of those guys

    You get the picture

    See if there is any mention of the fact that their boys are PED cheats from them in these type of threads and how their PED usage taints their legacy and accomplishments and gave them an unfair advatange. Because speaking as someone who has been around here a long time, I can assure you this is about as rare as getting struck by lightning twice on the same day as you're on your way back from picking up the check for your jackpot lottery winnings.
     
  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Most top athletes are doping. The most interesting thing about this story is not that Floyd is doping, and not even about his hypocrisy being exposed, but the details that actually give the ordinary sports fan some idea of how the corrupt "anti-doping" racket operates in professional boxing.

    Of course, some fans are so blind by hero-worship they can't even get their heads round the fact that professional athletes do actually 'get away with' taking PEDs all the time.
    If you can't even accept that then you're never going to understand how it all works.
     
  4. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    Exactly.
    IV drips are prohibited. They ARE cheating, they ARE a violation.

    It's no good USADA saying "oh, we said it was okay and gave him an exemption." unless they fully explain WHY it was okay.

    The only reason an exemption can be issued is for a medical emergency.

    I think it's preposterous that a fighter can undergo treatment for a medical emergency after the weigh in, THE DAY BEFORE THE FIGHT, and enter the ring the very next day.
    How would that EVER be allowed ?
     
  5. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Lol, Mayweather looks better at 38 than he did at 28 :lol:
     
  6. Man_Machine

    Man_Machine Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are implying that Mayweather Jr might have a long term medical condition, requiring clinical management over time. This might have been the case. But, would that not constitute the need for a longer term TUE, applied for and sanctioned in advance - not retroactively and with a delayed communication to all parties concerned? Would this not, in turn, have needed to have been sanctioned by the NSAC some time ago; not by the USADA in a seemingly one-off incident?

    Too many questions surround the circumstances of Mayweather's use of a method on the WADA Prohibited List. And, as the self-proclaimed 'Saviour' of the PED-abusing sport of Boxing; the precedent-setting instigator of private, individual athletes having business relations with an agency for drug testing administration, does he not have a responsibility to uphold?

    The sheer conflict of interest and ensuing hypocrisy of this situation seems to somehow sail over the heads of all those who control Boxing and partial observers alike. It is an inconvenient truth that Mayweather Jr, whilst being the furthest thing from a paragon of moral fortitude, at any rate, has been caught doing something that he should adequately and rightly explain. He has not.

    That is the crux of the matter - Not whether the USADA would risk such a scandal or why Boxers, who 'volunteer' to undergo these private testing regimes, should be beyond reproach. That's baloney for the type of person, who thinks there is a sun-like star beaming out of these people's a$$holes.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Keep my name outta your mouth you racist **** boy or come and see me. I hate keyboard racist like you who talk **** on the net bu in person wouldn't dare say ****. Fake *****
     
  8. Unforgiven

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    If he has any sort of serious illness/condition that requires an emergency/unforeseen treatment with an IV drip the day before the fight that's a very serious matter.
    You would hope that a whole crew of actual independent doctors and people from the boxing commission would have got together and called off the fight.
     
  9. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You completely missed the point. It was a simple an@logy, which you are evidently too thick to get that block head around.

    There are circumstances and contentions in Pac's case too. However, I prefer to wait and see the EVIDENCE before declaring anything as truth. Any as$hole can make assumptions. You shlould know that.
     
  10. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    No boxer taking roids would shock me. I do not take Hauser too seriously though because he is too biased. As for the IV, yes it seems suspicious. Floyd and many top boxers are probably on something. Beating women is much more bothersome though.
     
  11. Stovepipe

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  12. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Everyone's an expert all of a sudden. [emoji57] There is retroactively APPROVED TUE for a non sanctioned IV dosage that has raised eyebrows. Everything else you mentioned are the quiet whispers of Mayweather detractors trying desperately to piece little "clues" together to build a case against someone they want to see beaten either in or out of the ring. Guess what? No one that matters has come forward to actually pursue an investigation. In fact, the powers that be have deemed the man innocent of any intentional wrongdoing. Until things change that is simply what it is

    Most people (including Hauser) are completely missing the point that better testing is something boxing needs and has needed for a long time. If these commissions saw it like that, you wouldn't have fighters paying for their own testing and fewer situations where there appears to be a conflict of interest, in these matters.

    For some of you (not you necessarily) with an obvious agenda, it was "let the Commission do its job," when the microscope was on your favorite fighter. The problem is and was the Commission is doing its job...just not well enough.
     
  13. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No one said it's impossible for him or any other athlete to be doping. But, you need actual PROOF to definitively say someone is or is not doing something. And a lot of you on here (not you necessarily) are unequivocally labeling the man a liar, thief, lifelong cheater and a PED user without actual PROOF.
     
  14. RC31

    RC31 RiGod Full Member

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    :huh great answer :lol:
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Fair enough.
    But I think it's fairly certain that he cheated at least this once and the USADA 'cleaned up' the blatant violation with a TUE.
    I'm not talking about PEDs, I'm talking about the IV drip. That's clearly against the rules, so the USADA just sanitized it and "made it okay" after the fact.
    Everything points towards that being the case. It's basically proven, and admitted to.

    All the other accusations are perhaps unwarranted, but in the face of such blatant slackness in enforcing the rules (or corruption), people are naturally going to think the worst.