Hauser strikes back again!

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  1. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Any reasonable person can put 2 and 2 together, concluding that although there's ultimately no proof, it's obvious he has cheated here.

    Floyd has never had problems making weight, he just had to lose 1lb, which shows that he's actually well hydrated. You work out hard, but do you work out so hard as to need a TUE? What about those who work out so hard, and do what they can to get to weight too, that didn't use TUE? That isn't even taking into account the fishiness from the USADA.

    With there being no proof, he's ultimately innocent but you have a right to your own opinion, and its most probably he did cheat with all of the evidence shown.
     
  2. RC31

    RC31 RiGod Full Member

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    ^^ couldn't of said it any better.
     
  3. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Very well articulated.
     
  4. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Exactly. I agree with you. I wasn't dehydration, it was used to cover up his DRUG use.
     
  5. TJ Max

    TJ Max Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Whatever you got to say about who he beat, he cheated. You know damn well you would be calling Pac a cheat if the roles were reversed.

    Admit that. Be a man.
     
  6. Marv888

    Marv888 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    You sound better than hauser....probably the best thread I've seen posted about this
     
  7. TMH

    TMH Active Member Full Member

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    'Has something.' You sound like you're defending a criminal you know to be guilty. :rofl
     
  8. hussleman

    hussleman Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Butthurt Pac****s. Hauser, get a life you were not an eyewitness. Floyd, was cleared. Moving right along.
     
  9. NewBoxingOrder

    NewBoxingOrder Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Anyone who has blood drawn regularly knows that many times the person administering the needle (for an IV in this case rather than for drawing blood) will botch the procedure, resulting in bruising, swelling and possibly some difficulty of use with the affected arm. Especially on the same day or the next day.

    As Hauser says in the article, why would someone who is going to use their arms the next day subject themselves to this risk of botched blood drawing (inserting IV needle)? It just doesn't make any sense.

    Well, there is one reason why it would make sense.

    If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck and walks like a duck, it's probably a duck.

    On the other hand, I think numerous athletes -- including boxers -- are using PED's. Those not using may be the exception rather than the rule.

    Still, we can only go on a case-by-case basis. If someone gets busted, they get busted.
     
  10. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd retired at the right time. So did Lance......that is, before he came back and went to the well too many times even though there were doping scandals bubbling to the surface. Floyd might have some explaining to do if he doesn't take this warning that there's smoke surrounding his own integrity being a clean athlete and decides to go to the well one last time.
     
  11. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just think about the fallout Floyd was able to create spreading rumors about Manny doping. There was no real evidence....no one blowing the whistle or hidden positive results. ... just one man running his mouth about another man, pulling into question his integrity.

    If this was PAC and he had suspect test results....a relationship with a drug testing agency that provides preferential treatment and accepts a higher fee for those services.....the IV use....the TUE... the time to it took for the athletic commission to be informed of a retroactive procedure prohibited by their protocol. It's not like this is all made up or a rumor.
     
  12. punisher

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    Well...for sure using that IV w/ that dosage violates a rule. But, then again, there's another rule that allows it to happen, if the proper paperwork is submitted and approved...before or after the fact. And because that loophole exists, is it really cheating? If rule B was not in place to cover rule A, most certainly it is. And who is at fault? The fighter, the testing agency, the organization who crafted the rules and created these exceptions, the commission?

    I think the problem is the loophole exists to be exploited. And if the fighter isn't savvy enough to know how to exploit it, there are people who work for him (and represent the testing agency) who do. It is a conflict of interest. One sanctioned by the commission; because, they have given the fighters the responsibility they, as the governing body, should have.

    People "cheat" on their taxes all the time knowingly and unknowingly...but, in many cases do so within the ramifications of the law. And they are often aided in doing so, even advised to do so, by the accountant or tax preparer whom they hired. Of course they sign a waiver to limit or remove the liability of the accountant or tax preparer. And because you can say you donated up to a certain amount to charity w/o receipts, even though you didn't, is it really "cheating" or just a matter of conscience?

    The way laws/rules are written and administered are often times not very cut and dry.
     
  13. punisher

    punisher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well Oscar did it right before his fight with Pac. As per Freddie, he could see the IV marks in his arms. Was he masking drugs or was he dealing with some rehydration issues?
     
  14. IsaL

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    Oscar had not weighed under 154 in well over 10 years. Oscar's walk around weight has always fluctuated between 170-190. He pretty much let himself go inbetween fights.

    Oscar weighed 146 on fight night. He was completely dehydrated. He looked dead.

    Floyd walks around at 150 per him and his followers. Floyd at worst probably had chapped lips.

    There hasn't been a clear explanation why he was using an IV.
     
  15. Unforgiven

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    Again, WADA's 2015 Prohibited List (that USADA is supposed to uphold) includes the prohibition on :

    Intravenous infusions and/or injections of more than 50 mL per 6 hour period except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations.

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    No one has yet explain how Floyd Mayweather's 750ml infusion was exempted.
    No one is claiming he was admitted to hospital, underwent a surgical procedure or was underdoing a clinical investigation. Are they ?

    So, on what ground was he allowed to break this clear rule ?
    "I had dark urine", "Oh, yeah, he works out real hard" just doesn't cut it.