Have a look at these videos - is it too harsh to say RJJ is shot/has no chance?

Holy ****.. did you actually just write something insightful?

 

What a nice guy.

 

Yeah, RJJ does fight beautifully off the ropes. He used to regularly invite his opponents to the ropes so he can do his thing. His upper cut/hook combinations are a thing of beauty. Wonder if this will play a factor in this fight.

 

yes I did nuthugger.

Even though I hate on Jones IF he does not fight scared and is willing to let his hands go he has a good shot at winning the fight. Though past his "prime" I do not think Roy is as shot as people say he is.

I think it is all just mental similar to what happened to Wlad Klitschko after he was KOed by Sanders.

 

Roy's left hook will be a key here. I will give him a pass against Tito because his bicep was obviously torn. But that punch is Roy's bread and butter. A lot of people keep talking about him using a straight right against Calzaghe. The straight right is BERNARD'S bread and butter punch, not necessarily Roy's. If you look at the majority of Roy's KOs, you will see his left hook was the real game changer in most of them. Not saying he doesn't have a good straight right, but he usually throws that as a lead to potshot and set other things up.

Also, while you can say Joe is southpaw and isn't as susceptible to the left hook, as I said earlier, he tends to square himself up when throwing punches, leaving himself open to shots from either side. Watching the mitchell, bika and hopkins fights closely, he really leaves himself open to getting clocked in some of those exchanges.

 

Let us all be honest, were this not Joe Calzaghe he were fighting, no one would say he is shot to pieces, because Joe is an elite fighter, people expect Calzaghe to win, as no ones come close to beating him.

Jones has a punchers chance, a big punchers chance actually, his skills are not on a par with Joes and his hands are only ever so slightly slower, but I state again, were this Tarver, Hopkins, or Dawson, people would be split and thinking Jones could do it ( were it Pavlik everyone would be sure of a Jones win)

I expect a good showing from Jones, and he will be a very real threat to Joe through out.

 

True enough. Roy never truly mastered the art of Pattycake like Calzaghe.

 

Calzaghe's workrate wins the day again here, but his punch resistance is perhaps starting to wane so perhaps Jones has a punchers chance. He'll need to land a perfect shot though and follow it with a vintage flurry from his past causing the referee to stop the fight.

If Joe Cortez is the referee he'll probably give Jones every advantage available including a premature stoppage if Jones can get Calzaghe going.

 

If you have the full Tito V Jones fight - listen to the commentary. They clearly repeat all the way through that these guys are finished as competitive boxers. That was way before Joe came on the scene about fighting Jones.

I was, what appeared to be, one of the few who stopped up to watch the Tito fight, and the interest on here was absolutely minimal. Everyone appeared to had given up on Roy.

 

hmm, actually I recall all three agreeing they both looked better than expected and Steward even went so far as to say Roy would give Calzaghe a good fight.
:huh

 

I honestly don't recall that, though he may have. I remember Steward saying that they were both done for in completive fights. I remember it particularly because I was really willing for a Roy comeback - for him to just to show something of his former self.

Perhaps Stewart contradicted himself, and said both things throughout the course of the fight; he often does.

Anyway, I'd love for Roy to have something left, but his record alone says it all. Watching the vids now he just doesn't do enough. He fights in small bursts, but it's just not enough - he's gone.

 

I recall nowhere in the fight where this was said, or even intimated by steward. Lampley or Kellerman, maybe, but not steward. At any rate, while I agree Roy is not the favorite by a long shot in this fight, he has more of a "puncher's chance" than most do.

 

Well I'm pretty sure I didn't imagine it - one of them said it - for sure.

The trouble with the punchers chance theory is that Calzaghe has a very good chin.

 

:good RJJ speed just may keep him in the fight but I don't think a couple highlights against limited competition is prove that a fighter is not shot. Jones is finished and has been finished for years...

Now I think Jones has very small chance...Lets just say his chances of beating Joe are better that Hanshaw's but its not good enough for me to put money on. Well maybe 30 bucks or something but nothing significant...