Have GoldenBoy/HBO given up on Ortiz?

Ortiz beat Peterson, worst Judges ever.

 

man you know what petersons are some bad fighters, not impressed. They did what Margarito did, called floyd mayweather out to get notiriety and havnt won a damn fight since.

and this the guy ortiz struggled with? I dont blame golden boy but damn ortiz has so many gifts and he is better then the whole pack.

**** you maidana you did this

 

GBP have ADD when it comes to managing their prospects. The same will happen to Danny Jacobs. They get to a point where they focus on something else and just drop the other case like a bad habit.

 

You have to remember the type of mantle GB were putting Ortiz on pre Maidana ................

It was said this kid will be the " NEW FACE OF GOLDEN BOY PROMOTIONS " , well its clear now that a) he hasnt got the heart , and b) he hasnt got the ability .

Yes they have invested in Ortiz , but not a catastrophic ammount , its not like they have took a massive loss on the kid , my take on the Berto fight is obviously they trust Ortiz enough to give Berto a good test , and they should be right in thinking that , additionally he has stated he wants to make his move to 47 permanent , if the expectations have not been met (initial expectations) why not get the kid some good available fights and paydays , after all thats what he's paying them for !!!

 

I see your point and even though I don't think they've given up on him, I do think it may be his last chance. This is a do or die fight for him and he has to show some serious potential otherwise they'll drop him. If he actually wins, which I think he has a decent shout of doing, it can make his career but if he loses, he'll be wondering himself why he was fed to Berto.

Hopefully he can do it though. He seems like a good guy and I hope he can have success.

At least he's guaranteed a payday against Rios in the near future.

 

Hope you're right about Rios but I don't know if I can see them finding an agreeable weight to fight at. Looks like Ortiz is moving up to 147 and Rios is still 135-140. He said previously that he would fight Ortiz at 138 and I doubt that Ortiz is able (or maybe willing) to do that.

Anyway, this really is do or die for Ortiz. He has to make it a war and put forth a great showing. A close UD loss is probably good enough for him to stay relevant.

 

Yeah they have. IF he loses to Berto his career is over with.

 

:deal Right here. As of now, GBP just doesn't know how to build a star with the proper matchmaking. Which is why they prefer to steal or lure away boxers with promise of TV dates.

 

His "made it" party was suppose to be against Maidana. That was supposed to be the day we all would see what he really was made out of. And that we did only it wasn't what we all expected. He turned out to be a scared little girl. Hes even scared to open up to a Peterson. WTF? Its time to let him go and let him choose his own path in the sport.

 

I think its GBP telling him show us you got it or we let you go. What better way to do it than throwing him against HBOs golden child. If he wins then GBP has a big star in the making and he takes Bertos spot.

I think its a good move on GBP half. The kid obviously has some issues and this will clear up the picture for them. Its true GBP does not build a star "properly" but thats why us fans always get pissed watching these prospects fight nobodies until their 30th or 40th fight. Look at JCC Jr. Arum is building him up. JML and Gamboa. Arum builds fighters by putting them in against soft opposition or past it opposition. GBP do more of a swim or sink approach. SAy what you want but i like that better. That way we know right away wether a fighter has it or not and hey a lose is no big deal even though the media makes it look like that.

Do you think Khan would have fought Maidana if he had signed with Top Rank. He would have been fighting slow older fighters or light handed fighters until his 30th fight.
GBP threw him in there and he swam. Hopefully Ortiz does too then we got a mega fight in the build.