Have people forgotten that Erislandy Savon toyed with Joshua? People overrate power.

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  1. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The fight is on YT and for everybody to see. I watched it live back then and was shocked at the decision Joshua got awarded. He looked nowhere near Savon's skill and got handled with ease.
    So far, Joshua has looked really good because he blew virtually everyone he fought out. His KO win over Johnson is pretty impressive but I feel like people are getting overboard because hard hitting boxers tend to raise more attention. It's a casual's fallacy and I'm shocked how prevalent it is on a hardcore boxing board.
    Unless Joshua fights a top 15 or top 10 boxer, I will remain a sceptic. For instance, Wilder's fight against Stiverne made me a believer. Wilder fought a legitimate top 10 heavy, had to go 12 rounds and proved disbelievers that he's not all power but skills as well. Joshua ain't at that point yet. There will come an opponent he's not gonna blow out in round one, two or three and I am not very enthusiastic as to how he's gonna react to a technically superior fighter. I think Fury at this point embarasses him. So does Haye (provided he's as good as in 2012), Povetkin, Tarver, Cunningham. I don't like his skills until he proves me otherwise. Based on the Savon fight, there are noumerous boxers who would beat him. Unless he has improved drastically since 2012 (which might have happened in all fairness, 3 years can be a lot).
     
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  2. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes I agree that people overate power. But I also think that it's hard to draw conclusions on fights in the amateur ranks when you're talking about a professional fighter.
     
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  3. Faerun

    Faerun Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is correct obviously. His pro career is coming along fine so far, don't get me wrong. But clearly, at some point he'll face boxer who don't succumb to his power. Wonder what'll happen then.
     
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  4. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yeah that would be alot more intresting! Atleast I'm glad that he decided to ditch his amateur career in favour of being a professional fighter.
     
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  5. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Erislandy Savon is a little overrated in my book.

    I don't know if Joshua has a good chin, Dillian is right in that he hasn't showed enough one punch power, he's always just overwhelming the small outmatched guy to get them out of there.

    Joshua only had 23 amateur fights, don't forget that, and he quickly rose to have very close fights with Savon and edge Cammarelle, Dyschko, Medzhidov etc.
    That's a big deal. He's obviously developed his game further, having more time. Sure, he still needs to adjust to fighting in deep water and in the big pro fights, but he's continuing to develop.
    He does have very good skill.
     
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  6. lepinthehood

    lepinthehood When I'm drinking you leave me well alone banned Full Member

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    More that speed and skills gonna trouble Joshua, especially speed.
     
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  7. On The Money

    On The Money Dangerous Journeyman Full Member

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    Savon had to knock him out to get a draw.
     
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  8. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    :good
     
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  9. theanatolian

    theanatolian Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal Very big deal.
     
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  10. Inspector

    Inspector Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Big Anthony is the real deal.

    :deal
     
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  11. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    As others have said, Joshua had an amazing career, made even better when you consider how little experience he had. In the amateurs he was still very raw and mainly getting by on natural athletic ability. His skills have increased a lot since going into the pros.

    He still has a lot to prove. His stanima, chin, heart, mentality and ring IQ still need to be tested.

    He has performed very well up to now against limited and old opposition, but when you look at his resume, it is very good compared to most propects. Still, there is plenty to prove. This is why it is so hard to trully judge AJ; he has looked spectacular and completely untroubled against the type of opposition you would expect a top prospect to beat, but maybe struggle with a bit, yet, there are still so much questions left unanswered.

    Anyone who says he definitely will or won't make it are just trolling or partaking in a bit of wishful thinking.
     
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  12. GloriaAblaze

    GloriaAblaze Active Member Full Member

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    Joshua and Fury will reign over the heavyweight division for MANY MANY years.
     
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  13. MrFoFody

    MrFoFody Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes Joshua is overrated for beating nothing but retired pensioners and street scrubbers but how he did in the ams has no relevance on what he will accomplish as a pro.
     
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