Have the Klitsckos offered Haye a fight without options?

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  1. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Relax there Chico..............:yep :rofl

    I just love stirring the pot a bit sometimes. You Brits have zero sense of humor.

    I also want the best to fight the best and even though I understand why they won't fight I'd like to see Wladimir & Vitali go at it because it would be the best vs. the best. Of course I'd love to see either Klitschko against Haye as well. ****, I'd watch to drunks fight over the last beer...............
     
  2. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Just as it would be wise to take an Englishman's word with a grain of salt regarding David Haye. It swings both ways.....................
     
  3. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The Klitschkos are essentially don king if he was white, Ukrainian, and about a foot taller.

    edit: Quoted the wrong poster, point still stands.
     
  4. RUSKULL

    RUSKULL Loyal Member banned

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    Since when are the particulars of fight contracts aired openly?

    Besides, Haye already said he wanted to fight both brothers anyway so that guarantees him his wish doesn't it?
     
  5. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Chris Byrd was on record saying different. Ron Borges mentioned the awful negotiating when Vitali met Peter. They have a history of it, along with trying to handcuff their opponents in the event they did lose. It's good business, but bad practice.

    Haye was right to walk, same as Wlad would be right to walk if Haye insulted him like that.

    I don't see why this is difficult:

    60-40 purse split to Wlad, rematch clause for both fighters (since both are titlists), Haye keeps UK TV money, Wlad keeps German TV, they split US TV money 50-50. No options offered, no agreement to fight the other brother in the event of a loss.

    That's entirely fair. Why isn't Wlad offering that?
     
  6. CHEF

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    amazing how you haye fans seem to always forget that it was HAYE who wanted to fight BOTH Klitschkos and stated so many times. Does this sound familiar....

    "to be considered the true champion, I will have to beat both brothers. Its no problem. I want to fight both of them. The lawyers are working on it now"

    Haye is the one that brought that to the table in the contract with Wlad

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  7. CHEF

    CHEF Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    funny how chris says the talks were bad. They have the same lawyer:yep
     
  8. sosolid4u09

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    can we all not wait until we actually see who these guys are fighting next!! If haye fights a credible ranked heavyweight contender no i wouldnt consider that duckinggg. If he gets it with audley harisson thats a different matter.

    At the end of the day we dont know what goes on behind closed doors but its hayes right to get the best deal for himself just like it is the klits. I dont see wlad declining within the next couple years so why not wait and see how this thing plays out!

    I am a haye fan and i admit the way it seems is that he wont fight either klit next which is dissapointing for me coz i do wanna see the fight. But as long as he fights a good contender next id be satisfied. But with the trash talking etc i think he has gottt to make a real effort to agree a fight with one of the k brothers within 12 months or us haye fans would really have no credible comeback against haye bashers.
     
  9. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    And it is clear that your opinion is tainted too.

    So we have:

    Chef: biased but not ignorant about what has actually occurred.
    You: biased and ignorant about what has actually occurred.

    Sorry, but Chef wins.

    I'll pay attention to what he says over what you say any day of any week of any year.
     
  10. Farmboxer

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    Haye, who is the chicken in the Rocky movie, broke a signed contract with Vlad and an implied contract with Vitali.

    Vlad will give him 50/50 and so will Vitali.
     
  11. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    I've seen how angrily you post, I won't be taking your opinion too seriously.
     
  12. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad offered Haye a shot at all his titles, yet Haye ran.

    Vitali offered Haye a shot at his WBC title, yet Haye ran.
     
  13. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Lovely.

    So let's summarise.

    Chef: biased but not ignorant.
    You: biased and ignorant.
    Me: angry.

    I'll still be taking Chef's posts over yours any day of any week of any year.
     
  14. dan-b

    dan-b Boxing Junkie banned

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    Of course you will, he affirms your myopic agenda.
     
  15. rushman

    rushman Devoid is Devoid Full Member

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    Chef: Biased but not ignorant.
    You: biased and ignorant.

    I'd be an idiot to take your opinion over his.

    You would be too.