Have us real boxing fans been mugged?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Proud Warrior, Apr 3, 2015.


  1. Real-G

    Real-G Well-Known Member Full Member

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    God another "Im entitlement boxing fan" !! If you don't like how boxer, manager, and networks run boxing, then don't watch!

    You're NOT paying any of their wages, you're pay to see them fight, and fighting is risky, so risky, that fighter pay for their own medical.
    Their own retirement, and very high insurance..

    Not to mention, sparring partners, manager, trainers, gyms, and promotors.. All that **** cost, all of that comes out of the fighter pocket!

    Bottom line Fighters don't owe you ****, you don't like the risk, THEY take don't watch!
     
  2. Proud Warrior

    Proud Warrior Well-Known Member banned

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    What an angry nob you are..! All professional sports are subsidised by fans or participation be it by gate recipts,ppv or paying subs for your insurance if playing park sports...! Did mayweather pluck his fortune from trees? It was from paying cable fans idiot...!
     
  3. Scar

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    We pay them for risking their lives and stepping into that ring for our entertainment, yes. If the business/political side, something involved in literally every aspect of life, doesn't comfort people then they could easily stop watching. That's just how it is and will always be.
     
  4. Proud Warrior

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    But would the UFC way of having just one champ at each weight stop all the ducking? im not saying it would just putting it out there?
     
  5. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Hatton also turned down Witter back when it mattered for other bigger fights despite the British public backing Witter's call-out up. Gatti turned down Mayweather and stalled till he eventually had to take this fight. Froch also turned down rematch attempts with Ward despite already fighting him and surely has other "turned down" stories that I'm completely forgetting at the moment.

    There isn't any fighter that literally "fought all", it's physically and mentally impossible. Training camps, depending how tough/long they are, take their toll on their bodies and minds especially as they age(takes time/years for them to build names depending on promotion). You're an intelligent man, you should know this by yourself. Don't completely fall for whatever the media labels as "warrior". These fighters are human beings after all and have their limitations like we all do.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Pac was in great fights with "past it" guys. He's been ko'd twice by regular guys and knocked unconscious by a great fighter for 4 minutes. Nobody ever ducked Pac. People in boxing thought that Pac was a fukken cheat and Floyd and Morales were bold enough to have him tested. He lost to Morales after being tested, and he will lose to Floyd-after being tested.
     
  7. Scar

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    There is no such thing as "ducking", that's a term, no offense to you, only idiots and hormonal clueless adolescents use. There is something called "turning down option A for option B", which translates to, turning down an option for a better one financially and generally. Was fighting Concreto because a bunch of idiots were screaming(thanks to Arum's masterful promoting) a better feat than moving up to 154 and fighting WBC Champion and the biggest name in the sport at the time Oscar De La Hoya?, was that a "duck"?.

    As far as the UFC is concerned. Hell no it's not better for fighters, especially not financially, to have one organization dictate all. Boxers get paid far better than UFC fighters for a reason.
     
  8. Scar

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    Not this idiotic story again. :patsch
     
  9. Proud Warrior

    Proud Warrior Well-Known Member banned

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    I respect your views and to be honest Witter v Hatton never made sense like Mayweather Pac did. I love the wincobank fighters out of Sheffield like Nas,nelson and brook now but witter was never in there class. You have to remember Hatton was chasing the p4p king at the time in kostya tszyu and that is all he wanted and the rest is history shall we say.
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Witter and Hatton should've fought period.
     
  11. Proud Warrior

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    Im not disagreeing with you but by stealth Al Haymon is going down the UFC path with his fighters and many in the uk like it. If it was not for others here Eddie Hearn would have the best v the best if he could
     
  12. Scar

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    There isn't a single fight out there that makes sense like Mayweather vs Pacquiao, that's a fight/event in its own league. Witter and Hatton were used as an example and nothing else. If you want another example, then I gave you Leonard vs Hearns. They did stall on that fight too before finally making it for business reasons. Hagler vs Leonard is another example, Lewis vs Tyson and many more.
     
  13. Scar

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    He wouldn't have the best vs the best if it didn't make business sense. Sometimes it takes time to make certain fights bigger, juicier and financially bigger.
     
  14. Proud Warrior

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    Hatton fans at the time and to be honest casual boxing fans did not go mad for this, Witter was a good domestic fighter, its not like Mayweather v Pac or even Khan v Brook. I was at all the big Hatton fights and all we talked about was him finding a path to fight kostya tszyu.
     
  15. Proud Warrior

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    It goes back to my original post scar. I love boxing and wish no ill health on what I call my hero's but we do pay for them by supporting them so should there be a change and get what we deserve?