Have we seen the best of GGG?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Wass1985, Mar 18, 2017.


  1. jmashyaka

    jmashyaka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don't think that gear was ever there it's just the fighters before didn't bring an athletic package in the form that Danny did.
     
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  2. dinovelvet

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    He didn't look like a spoiler at 41 against 175 Tarver. At 35 he still had a great pair of legs on him. He didn't slow down and become a spoiler till much later.

    GGG may have looked better 5 years ago but it was against much lesser bodies so whose to know if he wouldn't have looked the same against Jacobs at any age. Jacobs and Lemmie are his best wins. Jacobs deserved it imo and Lemmie is a good win but he's hardly a world beater.
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hopkins started to change his style around the time he fought Vanderpool and Echols. He was around 35 years then. I know because I watched all his fights from the 90s and 2000s on youtube.
     
  4. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    I'm glad you qualified that with "I can't think of one."

    Heard of Ali? Heard of Spinks?

    Leon Spinks was a 10-1 underdog and didn't just offer HOF level Muhammad Ali a toss up fight, he beat him.

    Just one example that came straight to mind.

    What odds do you think Buster Douglas was when he beat Mike Tyson?
     
  5. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    34 isn't that old. Not in todays era.
    Calzaghe , Froch , Jones , Toney .. Mayweather ..even Pacman were all prime at that age. Loads more too. Even Pacman now at 37 is still formidable.
     
  6. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    Roy was outstanding. But did he blitz everyone he fought? Hell no.
     
  7. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah true
     
  8. Angler Andrew

    Angler Andrew Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I do think so myself but then again it is an obvious thing that when they get to this age a year can make all the difference
     
  9. Angler Andrew

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    Put it this way if Oscar and Canelo tried to put the fight off another year in September so he ages even more,it'd look bad and not only that if Canelo won it would take the gloss off a massive victory.
    GGG looks to be slowing down to me.
     
  10. kirk

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    Ali Spinks sounds like a good one. Have any examples that arent over 25 years ago? :lol:

    Again Im not asking because I dont think there are any, Im asking for my own knowledge. Ok so you have an Ali thats two fights away from being absolutely shot, and one of the biggest sports upsets of all time that happened almost 30 years ago.... Have any more relevant examples within the last couple decades?

    Maybe Hoya vs Ike? Controversial fight of a HOF level fighter against a non HOF level fighter.... Another one that comes to mind actually is Cotto vs Clottey.... pretty controversial decision against a non HOF level opponent. Cotto was on the comeback trail after a brutal loss, but still fits the criteria.

    Point is, just saying 'you cant knock out everyone' is damage control. Its not just that he didnt knock him out, its not even that he didnt dominate. Its that he barely separated himself in levels from a solid but not great fighter. Golovkin got a disputed decision against an 8-1 underdog and a powerful but vulnerable contender.

    For a fighter being touted by his trainer and a big portion of boxing fans as being an ATG middleweight, saying 'you cant knock out everyone' isnt enough.

    If this proves to be just an off night for whatever the reason may be, for G, then people will look back at it as probably a 'cant win them all' type fight. But if this hints more to how Golovkin responds to big, talented middleweights... then it simply reveals his level and theres nothing wrong with that.

    Time will tell I guess.
     
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  11. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I saw a GG who raised his game. When you raise your level of cop the kos go down. I was impressed by GG. Don't know what you were watching. Lots of fighters got kos in prime and decisions past prime. GG is no different. He beat a prime Jacobs and it doesn't get any better than that bruh...
     
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  12. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    Where did I say : "you cant knock out everyone."

    I said : "I can't think of a single fighter who just absolutely blitzed everyone they ever fought".

    By blitzed, I meant dominated, and GGG didn't dominate Jacobs. But he beat him.

    The point I was making is, even the best don't absolutely dominate every opponent they ever meet - and I stand by that because history supports it.
     
  13. alakran

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    Pacman and Mayweather are top of the top level though no way you can compare GGG to them. as for the others Calzaghe fought other older fighters ( hopkins, rjj) and fighters like hopkins really look for fighters who suit their style. GGG even now can still beat most MW but last night he fought a bigger, faster guy with maybe just as much power.